Military: Jarhead trailer out. [Archive]

Airborne506

August 15th, 2005, 02:40 AM

Yeah it looks pretty good, as vecdran said it looks like an Apocalypse Now kinda movie. I'm sure someone here has read the book was it any good? I saw it in the book store all the time but never looked at it or anything.

Ch33zy

August 15th, 2005, 05:35 AM

I pray it rocks.

GrosPoisson

August 15th, 2005, 05:37 AM

The book's pretty good, does a good job of detailing the day to day monotony Swofford and the other Marines he knew had to deal with. Here come the spoilers.

Like Kak said, the book and the movie are more about the "hurry up and wait" kind of rhythm of the military. There is little no to action in that trailer mainly because there is little to no action experienced by Swofford. The last time I read the book was well over a year ago, and if I remember correctly, Swofford doesn't even end up shooting his sniper rifle except to practice and re-zero the scope.

t00bsoks

August 15th, 2005, 11:15 PM

Also, can someone tell my why Swofford is such a controversial figure?
From what I gather, some think he is excessively whiny and make the Corps look bad. I read his book, and I didn't get that, but whatever.

Yes, I know I'm quoting myself, but I wrote that in case anyone else was wondering.

Toastar

August 16th, 2005, 12:40 AM

looks cool

SWATJester_os

August 16th, 2005, 01:35 AM

From what I gather, some think he is excessively whiny and make the Corps look bad. I read his book, and I didn't get that, but whatever.

Yes, I know I'm quoting myself, but I wrote that in case anyone else was wondering.

People don't like the idea that the military can be imperfect.

Looking forward to it....I've heard he was a hell of a sniper.

t00bsoks

August 16th, 2005, 01:46 AM

People don't like the idea that the military can be imperfect. Some on Lightfighter sure don't like to think that.

Looking forward to it....I've heard he was a hell of a sniper.
Based on what exactly?

SWATJester_os

August 16th, 2005, 04:29 AM

Anecdotal evidence.

Supplanter

August 16th, 2005, 07:31 AM

Looks good.

BTW that game of gas mask football looks fun :)

FiftyCalibre

August 16th, 2005, 10:57 AM

I bought Jarhead at my uni bookshop ages ago, which is weird cos that bookshop is so left wing its not funny

GrosPoisson

August 17th, 2005, 01:25 AM

Oh yeah? We have one whose goal is to actively promote a Socialist revolution. No, really, there's a sign in plain sight that says so.

Sweden

August 17th, 2005, 05:33 AM

I just read Jarhead for my English course at my college. It struggles to answer the question for swafford on whether he liked or disliked the war.
It gave him a purpose and the marine corps was his calling from very early in his life (his father served and his father served and so on and so forth).
::::SPOILERS DOWN HERE::::

Like GrosPoisson said, there is little fire-action in the novel; a little artillery fire from friendly troops and a couple bombings by friendly planes. They scope out a city from a mile away with the sniper rifles and I believe that swafford's life changing moment is when he needs to shoot someone but he doesnt; ending his tour in the gulf without firing a shot in combat. The story goes back and forth between a few of swafford's "friends" and their lives after the war. It tells about his friends suicide along with the desertion of his girlfriend to another man.
It begs the question throughout the entire novel and hopefully the book that - is war really worth the lives of the men who serve in it. Swafford's closing comments in the novel state that he would hope that nobody would follow in his footsteps unless they have made up their minds completely.

SWATJester_os

August 17th, 2005, 07:18 AM

Blah. I rescind my comment from earlier....I'm juxtaposing scenes from jarhead together with Shooter

t00bsoks

August 17th, 2005, 07:30 AM

Blah. I rescind my comment from earlier....I'm juxtaposing scenes from jarhead together with Shooter
What's Shooter?

Also I just saw the trailer for Severe Clear, and I thought that looked like a interesting documentary.

http://www.sirkproductions.com/index_severe.htm

Supplanter

August 17th, 2005, 09:23 AM

Also I just saw the trailer for Severe Clear, and I thought that looked like a interesting documentary.

i don't know what to say other then that trailer was crazy.

P.S. toobs you suck ;) now i want to see the whole doc right now :(

SWATJester_os

August 17th, 2005, 08:42 PM

What's Shooter?

Also I just saw the trailer for Severe Clear, and I thought that looked like a interesting documentary.

http://www.sirkproductions.com/index_severe.htm

Shooter is Gunny Jack Coughlin's USMC sniper book. He was in the "Darkside" unit, we kind of shadowed them for a lot of the invasion. He wrote a book, then Darkside 6 (LTC McCoy I believe) wrote one. It pretty much follows my platoons path through the war.

Dee Kaos

August 17th, 2005, 09:50 PM

From what I gather, some think he is excessively whiny and make the Corps look bad. I read his book, and I didn't get that, but whatever.

Yes, I know I'm quoting myself, but I wrote that in case anyone else was wondering.
As someone in the corps, I can say that even 12-odd years later, most of the complaints he had still ring true. Its an experience like no other, but the fact is, Most of this shit sucks most of the time. Oh- and to the person who said gas mask football looks fun: Its not. Side note: I have a few friends in STA platoon, those guys are so fucking crazily in shape it is not funny. The indoc is basically 3 days of pack runs, more pack runs, obstacle courses, and other such. If memory serves, you run 3 PFT length runs (3 miles)s in boots-and-utes, at least one with a pack, (boots, cammie pants) on the first day. Theres also a 500 meter swim, and some other stuff. They also do pack runs almost every day. Crazy motherfuckers.

t00bsoks

August 18th, 2005, 01:31 AM

Isn't the swim with a 15 pound weight that you have keep over your head?

Sweden

August 18th, 2005, 06:43 AM

btw, the football game in the gasmasks is portrayed in the book as a "field fuck" to show off for the CO in town :/
And yes, it does mean exactly what it says - although they're still clothed...
Not something i'd call a good time either.

gYmBaG

August 18th, 2005, 07:15 AM

whats an STA platoon?

Airborne506

August 18th, 2005, 03:00 PM

whats an STA platoon?

Googled it, Surveilance and Target Acquisition. Is that what Scout/Sniper Platoons are called now or are they 2 different things?

Sweden

August 18th, 2005, 04:42 PM

Yea, STA is a scout/sniper platoon, thats what swafford plays in the book.

gYmBaG

August 18th, 2005, 05:02 PM

ohhh ok i understand now lol thanks

StandingCow

August 18th, 2005, 11:53 PM

Looks good.

Playing football in the Chemgear would suck ass, lol.

Ch33zy

August 19th, 2005, 01:44 AM

I imagine it sucks because
A: Hotter than fuck
B: Every gasmask I've worn is like trying to breathe though a straw

gYmBaG

October 10th, 2005, 02:55 AM

sorry to start an old thread back up, but wanted to do this rather then start a new one, but i dont know how many have seen the new trailer, if it is new
http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/jarhead/large.html

GrosPoisson

October 10th, 2005, 03:07 AM

Yeah, that one's new.

spm1138

October 10th, 2005, 09:50 PM

It's a good book.

Not much combat though, as has been said.

If that's what you want you might prefer "Generation Kill".

Garryowen

October 10th, 2005, 10:35 PM

In most war's there isn't as much time spent shooting (or being shot at) compared to how much time you spent sitting on your ass, watching empty spaces for "movement" or my favorite, burning shit....

spm1138

October 10th, 2005, 10:59 PM

In most war's there isn't as much time spent shooting (or being shot at) compared to how much time you spent sitting on your ass, watching empty spaces for "movement" or my favorite, burning shit....

Oh yes, there's plenty of that in Jarhead.

SWATJester_os

October 11th, 2005, 02:00 AM

Googled it, Surveilance and Target Acquisition. Is that what Scout/Sniper Platoons are called now or are they 2 different things?

Yes. In the marines, scout snipers are STA. In the army, at a larger level they are RSTA, which is what my battalion (now squadron) has become.

PS: Garry...gotta love burning shit in diesel fuel ;)

GrosPoisson

October 11th, 2005, 02:05 AM

That reminds me of that story about the soldier who took all the powder out of his issued rounds and destroyed an ant hill with it. It was supposed to have taken place in Vietnam I think?

Krispy Joe

October 11th, 2005, 02:37 AM

looks spiffy

SWATJester_os

October 11th, 2005, 07:23 PM

That reminds me of that story about the soldier who took all the powder out of his issued rounds and destroyed an ant hill with it. It was supposed to have taken place in Vietnam I think?

I've done that, at benning, writing my name into sidewalks with powder.

GrosPoisson

October 11th, 2005, 10:22 PM

I've done that, at benning, writing my name into sidewalks with powder.

Heh. I swear, whoever makes a compilation of stories and photos of soldiers goofing off and gets it published will make a fortune.

SWATJester_os

October 11th, 2005, 11:22 PM

Oh god, what a great idea.

nojmaster

October 11th, 2005, 11:39 PM

Those Ranger stories for instance were utter gold, I'd buy it.

gYmBaG

October 12th, 2005, 12:11 AM

Those Ranger stories for instance were utter gold, I'd buy it.
what ranger stories?

nojmaster

October 12th, 2005, 12:42 AM

what ranger stories?

A while back someone posted stories about this Ranger unit where a couple of guys got up to some seriously funny stuff, like fake puking and then eating said fake puke on the plane before a jump for the benefit all all queasy onlookers.

gYmBaG

October 12th, 2005, 12:52 AM

oh hahah i think that might have been swat, or i dunno i know what you're talkin about though

SWATJester_os

October 12th, 2005, 04:42 AM

A while back someone posted stories about this Ranger unit where a couple of guys got up to some seriously funny stuff, like fake puking and then eating said fake puke on the plane before a jump for the benefit all all queasy onlookers.

That was me.....http://www.soupsandwich.net brought to you by Tucker Max who is my fucking hero, and a person who really means it when he says he supports the military.

Alex teh Great

October 12th, 2005, 07:42 PM

Those stories are priceless, both soupsandwich and Tucker's...the Austin road trip is gold.

marty

October 13th, 2005, 02:16 AM

My uncle claimed that was him, the puker, once. o_O

For some reason after reading it on the web, it's just something airborne guys spread around taking credit for, maybe half of the storytellers actually trying it (but also just copying it)

Kamikaze|

November 1st, 2005, 01:04 AM

ugh, jarhead reeks of mtv

however, I'm a military movie junkie, so I'll go see it

Army GI

November 2nd, 2005, 07:31 PM

Seriously sorry for the necropost, but did anybody realize that the guy who plays that Colonel is the same guy that played his dad in "October Sky"?

SWATJester_os

November 2nd, 2005, 07:46 PM

I watched the behind the scenes on hbo. I'll watch it.

Army GI

November 2nd, 2005, 07:48 PM

I want to go see it too. Alot of it looks like the same kind of BS that's in the Army.

Yeah I said it, but if you're in either branch you know it's true. That's why I won't shit a brick if I don't get selected for active duty service.

I'd have to watch it monday though because I'm going an on FTX this weekend:(.

BattleWhack

November 2nd, 2005, 07:53 PM

I'll watch it just because I'm well, IN that service, but honestly my expectations aren't too high, any time someone says "FOMG THIS IS HARDKORE FOR REAL WHAT IT BE LIKE YO" about what I see everyday, I get skeptical.

GrosPoisson

November 2nd, 2005, 11:26 PM

Seriously sorry for the necropost, but did anybody realize that the guy who plays that Colonel is the same guy that played his dad in "October Sky"?

"Die you sumbitch!"

I got to watch that a couple of times in middle school during science class. Good times.

solidsnake

November 3rd, 2005, 12:02 AM

Seriously sorry for the necropost, but did anybody realize that the guy who plays that Colonel is the same guy that played his dad in "October Sky"?

yup thats him.

The WOOO Meister

November 3rd, 2005, 07:44 AM

WORK IN THE COAL MINES

I want to hear how this movie turns out.

[hk]renegade

November 3rd, 2005, 10:17 PM

The marine corp does not endorse or support this movie, and and encourages marines to not answer any questions civilians may have about the movie Jarhead... I hope its worth 8 bucks, cause if the marine corp thinks it well make them look bad its probably true.

SmurF

November 3rd, 2005, 10:38 PM

reading the book for English can't wait to see the movie ><

whuh?

November 3rd, 2005, 11:12 PM

I saw Jarhead last nite(some promo thing) and it wasnt bad. Didnt have as much action as I thought it would.

oooRAH

SWATJester_os

November 4th, 2005, 01:31 AM

I saw Jarhead last nite(some promo thing) and it wasnt bad. Didnt have as much action as I thought it would.

oooRAH

considering swofford never fired his gun in the war, probably not.

whuh?

November 4th, 2005, 02:16 AM

considering swofford never fired his gun in the war, probably not.

yeah. Still had some good moments in it though.

Scooti Libbi

November 4th, 2005, 05:36 AM

Reviews are quite divided on this film-- 50%. Another one of those love it or hate it kinda' movies. Either the sheer lack of trigger-pulling and limbs flying across the screen will bore people to death or they'll be in emotional awe by the portrayal of a war movie that isn't "vietnamitized." Ah well, either way I'm watching it, considering how much hollywood as been taking a giant shit on creativity and substance these days. :cool:

CheeseSteakJim

November 4th, 2005, 10:58 PM

Going to see it tonight with a boatful (lol) of my friends. Will let you all know what I thought of it.

CheeseSteakJim

November 5th, 2005, 05:14 AM

It wasn't bad at all. Not an action movie though, so don't expect that. And do expect to see lots of nudity, both men and women, as well as multiple girls getting screwed on camera.

All in all, it's a really sad film.

whuh?

November 5th, 2005, 07:44 AM

GoatChomper

November 6th, 2005, 01:51 AM

.....war is getting too hi-tech for the common grunt, and at some point in the future, wars will be fought without the common soldier...
The exact same thing has been stated constantly since the first practical combat aircraft was fielded. Those stating it have been proven wrong every decade since.