View Full Version : Weapons: 2000 lb bomb and bunker buster bomb
gYmBaG
August 16th, 2005, 08:04 AM
does anyone have video showing each difference? i know what the bunker buster does, but i just dont know what it looks like, i was watching this video and i saw this explosion and it was huge so i was wondering if it was one of those two.
CT
August 16th, 2005, 08:17 AM
I dont have a video, and you wont find too many, if any, diagrams of the bunker buster. The major difference is, the bunker buster penetrates its targets before fuzing. The result is an explosion that is smaller looking, but much more devastating. It completley destroys the structure from the inside. Bunker busters are normally used on hard targets, like reinforced aircraft shelters, cave complexes, and (GASP!) bunkers. A 2000lb bomb is great for clearing lightly armored structures, but when it hits a solid reinforced structure, it ends up doing very little, if any, damage.
An easy way to spot a bunker buster explosion is they 'spread out' more. sometimes, you can still see part of the roof intact on a bunker buster job.
gYmBaG
August 16th, 2005, 08:35 AM
http://images.military.com/Video/050718_Marines.wmv
the explosion alittle past half way, on the building, its huge, i take it thats a 2000 lb bomb? or what?
FaKToR
August 16th, 2005, 10:58 AM
A 2000lb bomb is great for clearing lightly armored structures, but when it hits a solid reinforced structure, it ends up doing very little, if any, damage.
What do you mean by "lightly armored" exactly? I recall footage from the first Gulf War and they had the bombings from the nighthawks blowing the shit out of buildings and that's just two 2000lb bombs.
CT
August 16th, 2005, 11:21 AM
That explosion is actually somewhat small, and came from inside the building. Looks like some ordinance that went off in the fire. Wouldnt take much, 4 or 5 rpgs with sympathetic blasts from ammo, or a single HE artillery shell could do that. A 2000 lb bomb would have leveled that structure completely, and made a much more violent explosion. 2 mins 40 seconds into the video you see a 500 lb come in and clear house.
What i mean by lightly armored is, less than 2 foot thick concrete and steel reinforcements. Basically, if it wasnt hardened against bombing, then its not a job for the bunker busters.
Oops: Thats a 750lb, I found the backstory on the clip. They must be clearing inventory, the 750 is almost exclusivley dropped by the b52...
2000lb bombs generally leave craters in sandy soild that are 75-100 feet across, and 10 -15 feet deep. Many people dont realize, they are truley massive weapons, and they deliver their payload in a VERY concentrated way.
http://korswg.free.fr/bombe_2000lb_guidage_laser.avi The 2000lb bomb likes to play tonka with the dirt too... the fuel tank in that picture is 30 feet in diameter....
knute
August 16th, 2005, 03:27 PM
I dont have a video, and you wont find too many, if any, diagrams of the bunker buster.
No diagrams at all. Certainly not on the first page of Google results.
one (http://science.howstuffworks.com/bunker-buster1.htm)
two (http://www.uwec.edu/grossmzc/resenhmw.html)
SWATJester_os
August 16th, 2005, 06:06 PM
does anyone have video showing each difference? i know what the bunker buster does, but i just dont know what it looks like, i was watching this video and i saw this explosion and it was huge so i was wondering if it was one of those two.
Definately not a bunker buster if it was a huge explosion....
CT
August 16th, 2005, 08:25 PM
No diagrams at all. Certainly not on the first page of Google results.
one (http://science.howstuffworks.com/bunker-buster1.htm)
two (http://www.uwec.edu/grossmzc/resenhmw.html)
Heh, You'll have to excuse me, i didnt know they unclassified those programs in 98 (i dont really follow them too much anymore) none the less, most of the information is accurate.
Shadow
August 17th, 2005, 02:23 PM
It's the warhead used - not the weight.
a GBU-27A/B Paveway III carried by the F-117A Nighthawk is a 2000lb BLU-109 direct penetrator bomb - designed to destory hard targets - ie hardened/reinforced bunkers etc.
The GBU-10 Paveway II is a 2000lb MK84 General Purpose High Explosive bomb. Designed to destroy multiple types of targets.
The GBU-28 is a 4,400lb BLU-113 hardened target annihilator. This is what i believe you call the "Bunker Buster". It is almost 19 feet long (created from modified artillery tubes). Only one tactical bird (in service) is qualified to carry it - the F-15E. The F-111 can carry it too - but seeing Australia's the sole operator now... :P
Mirsky
August 17th, 2005, 05:28 PM
Were you talking about the MOAB or Daisy Cutter bombs per chance ? The videos of the explosions are pretty spectatcular.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/afweapons/l/blmoab.htm
gYmBaG
August 18th, 2005, 06:27 AM
also this is slightly off topic sorry, but anyone know the song in that clip i provided? it sounds like korn im not sure, but whats the song title
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