Rifle Quals

[BattleWhack]

Welp, just got back from a week on the range, requalifying with the M16. Was fun, I do enjoy shooting. I managed to shoot a 40/65, which is the lowest expert score possible. :) So that's nice, I was only a sharpshooter last time. Only 5 other people on the range qual'd expert, but they all had better scores :p

200/300/500 Yards, both slow and rapid fire, timed.

[Gumpokc]

Ok, this is one thing i have never been able to understand.

once you have a _good_ zero on your M16, there is no reason why anyone, firing the military qualification, should score less than expert.

Hell the whole 12 years i was doing it (9active 3 reserve) with my lousy eyesight (20/35 right eye, 20/400 left eye) i always had perfect scores even when not wearing my glasses.

the targets aren't small, they aren't that far out, and they ain't moving.

Sure i enjoy shooting, and do more than the average civie or military person, but it isn't that hard of a qualification.

Now, that being said, if you don't zero it in right, then i can see a person having problems on scoring. When we did it you got 9 rounds to zero, and if a person can't zero an M16, that is in servicable condition in 9 rounds, well..they shouldn't be handling a firearm until they've had remedial training to fix their cranial-rectal inversion syndrome.

[GoatChomper]

Ok, this is one thing i have never been able to understand.

once you have a _good_ zero on your M16, there is no reason why anyone, firing the military qualification, should score less than expert.
With sufficient practice, true.....but that's a circumstance that rarely comes about due to time and budget constraints.

Assuming, of course, that the targets don't have large bullet-missing holes in them. I've seen that be the case.

[[hk]renegade]

Its meters, not yards and a dog target is pretty small from 500 meters out...

[BattleWhack]

Some of the people that I know aren't too good at shooting, they just don't grasp and/or practice the fundementals. Breath and trigger control will ruin your day.

We didn't even get a chance to properly zero our weapons, we were givin 6 rounds to see if the rifle would hold a group, and then set loose upon the KD range. It was up to the shooters to zero on the go. I was fine with that, because I am comfortable doing it, but I know some people aren't. And I'm blind, too, I have a pair of small binocs that I use to see where my rounds are impacting at the 300/500 lines. At 500 meters, I can't barely see the black, I sometimes have to just cut the whole target in half, knowing the black is centered.

[SWATJester_os]

Some ranges just suck. my worst score has been a 29 on a range firing in 20 mph wind, with so much driving rain that the 200m targets and beyond were invisible.

[Marf]

Is 40/65 much? I mean last time Fogfear got weekend free from German Armed Forces he told me he shot: 96/100 with g36 on 200 metres(~200yards)
but i have no idea what wind and rain or whatever weather conditions he was shootin in

[meifunk]

I'm so glad all of our stuff is close range. It's damn near impossible not to qualify expert on the M-16.

However, after playing the role of Small-Arms Instructor, I can say that regardless of weapon condition, and sighting-in, there are people that will not qualify. Ever. That's okay. We always need people to fill out the paper work afterwards.

[SWATJester_os]

No its entirely true. I shoot and wonder how people can't qualify, but then I see them doing what they're supposed to with the 4 fundamentals of marksmanship, and STILL shooting poorly. I just don't get it. Some people don't h ave the shooter gene.

[BattleWhack]

I know the M16 isn't exactly the hardest rifle to shoot with, but you'd be astonished at the amount of people that barely qualify.