Military recruiting?

[FaKToR]

I was wondering if regular soldiers (not just recruiters) get money or what not for getting people to sign up?

[Ch33zy]

Don't know for sure, but it's most likely a no.

[Karaya1]

Recruiters dont get extra money for the number of people they sign up nor do Soldiers or Marines get a bonus if they refer people as far as i know. Recruiters do get some extra duty pay, quite a bit more than most other jobs. Recruiters are all in all pretty damn good people. There is a small minority that gives the rest a bad name. If a recruiter can trick you, you are stupid, thats all there is to it.

I know in the Marine Corps if you are in the DEP and you refer two people you will be auto promoted to PFC out of recruit training. The other branches have similar programs IIRC.

[BattleWhack]

As far as the Marine Corps, recruiters do not get extra money for the amount of people they enlist, it's all part of a quota. It's their job.

Fleet Marines such as myself do not get money for referrals, however, we do get valuable promotion points, up to 100 pts, 20 per person.

While in the DEP you get credit for up to 3 referrals, 2 gets you PFC, 3 gets you PFC and free dress blues.

[FaKToR]

I'm not talking about a recruiter, I'm talking about a regular soldier.

[marty]

I'm not talking about a recruiter, I'm talking about a regular soldier.
Doesn't that make your first question kind of loaded?

[FaKToR]

How's that?

[Seanobi]

I imagine it's like a job where you get commission. If you tell some guy to buy a stereo, but some other guy rings up the transaction, the guy who actually did the cash transfer gets the bonus.

[SWATJester_os]

No, I will answer it right now they don't. If you recruit a friend, you can be bumped up 1 rank, up to PFC at the highest. Beyond that you can get guaranteed air assault and airborne school slots. No money.

[StandingCow]

Nope, at least I havent heard of this.

As far as recruiters.. they dont get extra money but they are pressured to meet their quota... and if they dont make it when they should be, they are taken out of the recruiting program or possibly relocated.

[uglygun]

One of the forces is beginning to consider this from what I read somewhere recently.

Sorry I can't be more specific but I want to say that one of the branches of the military is considering giving a monetary bonus to people who manage to get others to enlist.

[FaKToR]

I was just wondering because this guy I ran into who was saying to me that he gets money for recruiting people (he's not a recruiter) which is why he jokes to his friends about getting them to sign up.

[GoatChomper]

Unless some recruiter is slipping discretionary funds to him under the table, he's talking shit.

[StandingCow]

What branch was missing their quota by alot? Marines? Army? I dont remember.

[meifunk]

Right now, the CG gives out ribbons to people that successfully recruit someone else.

Basically, I tell you to join, you say "Okay" and go to a recruiter and say "Blah blah blah sign me up and oh yeah, this guy is the reason I joined."

4-6 months later I get a Letter of Commendation. I believe if it happens three times I get an Achievement Medal for it.

Oh, and last I checked Army and Marine Corp enlistment is down, so they're probably missing quotas.

[Karaya1]

Marine Corps enlistment is not down, all quotas have been met.
The Army on the otherhand...

[meifunk]

Marine Corps enlistment is not down, all quotas have been met.
The Army on the otherhand...


My source is both Navy Times and other random Periodicals that come across my desk. Never said I trusted 'em. Just last I checked, that's what they said.

[SWATJester_os]

What branch was missing their quota by alot? Marines? Army? I dont remember.

I'm about 75% sure that Army met goal last month. ARNG did not, USMC did, USAR did not. Though, FLARNG did meet its goal.

[SWATJester_os]

meifunk, sign up on the military roster.

[gYmBaG]

i think i heard someone that the air force was down on quotas, not too sure. i know the Marines were lagging during the months of december and january but i guess they pulled it off.

[meifunk]

meifunk, sign up on the military roster.

I thought I had.

i think i heard someone that the air force was down on quotas, not too sure. i know the Marines were lagging during the months of december and january but i guess they pulled it off.

Again subject to sources, but last I had read USAF was well over their Personnel Cap, and was in the process of downsizing a bit. Not only was this from Navy Times and other Periodicals, but from military.com forums, as well as some others that are ... less trustworthy.

With that in mind, the USAF Recruiting would be down a bit since they can't really bring in a whole of people if they're already over their cap.

All I know is that our ROs are consistently meeting their quotas more than they ever used to. You guys in the bigger branches, you'd see what, 30-40 if not more people leave MEPS on a ship day? Yeah, a big shipment from Seattle was 5 people. That's above average, but things are changing.

[SWATJester_os]

Didn't see you already had.

Yes, USAF is hard core RIF'ing. To the point where last I heard they were 10,000 personell over strength.

30-40? We'd often have 80-100 in a day out of montgomery meps.

[gYmBaG]

if you want i can probably find out the numbers going through L.A. meps, my gf's dad is retired from the army, E-8, and he works at meps. so ill have to give him a call tomorrow to see how many run through there a day

[GoatChomper]

I'm about 75% sure that Army met goal last month. ARNG did not, USMC did, USAR did not.
Confirmed.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/10/national/main770009.shtml

[Karaya1]

Confirmed.....

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/08/10/national/main770009.shtml

I always thought the actived duty Army, Marines, Navy and AF met their goals in June, July and August fairly easily. I always thought this could be partially attributed to kids joining up after graduation. For example i have two friends that joined in July that had recently graduated in late May. Initially they intended to 'take a year off' but after a month of doing nothing and being bored they decided to do something with their lives. That's how they put it. One joined the Army and the other the Navy. Three more kids from my H.S. back in Wyoming just joined the Marines DEP in June too and will leave after their Senior year.

Goat Chompers source states that while the Army and the other branches met their quotas in last month but it also says the Army still isn'T on track for the year.

I also have wondered why the Marines are able to keep meeting quotas year round while the Army is struggling. Both of the branches are taking the vast majority of the casualties. Why are people more readily signing up for one over the other? My only guess would be that the Marines have run a better advertising campaign. Goat, you have an opinion on this?

[SWATJester_os]

They have a smaller quota too. If your pool of candidates shrinks by 500, it will affect the guy who only needs 50 for quota more than the guy who needs 150.

[Ch33zy]

My only guess would be that the Marines have run a better advertising campaign.

On TV, I usually only see Army commercials. However, only the Marines came into school and did talks, pullup challenges and the like.

[gYmBaG]

On TV, I usually only see Army commercials. However, only the Marines came into school and did talks, pullup challenges and the like.
yeah i rarely see marine commercials anymore :( lol, but they do have sometimes the best little boths when they go to school career assemblys. one time they even came to my old high schools home coming fair. but then again so did the army so i dont know.

[meifunk]

As a rule, I try to watch as little TV as possible... But when I'm stuck on the ship for Duty reasons and I end up watching some on the Mess Deck, airtime up here is dominated by Navy and National Guard commercials. There are about the same amount of Coast Guard and Marine Corp commercials on, and hardly any USAF ones which I think is because of their current overage issue.

I know that the Army and the Navy spend lots of money on Advertising, and rightfully so, they have it. The running joke here is that the Army/Navy's recruiting/advertising budget > USCG's yearly expense budget.

Our commercials have come a long way, but they're still a bit goofy, if you ask me. Nothing beats the old Job's That Matter slogan, though.

[gYmBaG]

yeah, i probably see, from most to few, army, navy, air force, marine corps, and coast gaurd, but now that i think about it, i havnt really seen any air force ones lately, i have seen alot in my gaming magazines, tryin to hit the computer aged kids i guess

[GoatChomper]

Goat, you have an opinion on this?
As SWAT mentioned, it's largely a matter of having to recruit fewer people.....your quota may change, but people are still at a rate of One.

Another factor is that historically the Army has put it's academically highest-scoring people into Intel, while the Corps tends to put them into recruiting.

[gYmBaG]

so i asked my gf's dad who is a retired E-8 in the army and he works at the L.A. meps, and he said that on average a day, its around 40, 50 per day going through there, but he says the end of the months is normally the busyest due to the fact thats when all the non schedule people. i also heard that the reason the air force is "downsizing" is the fact that they lowered their quota, and is having a problem with the amount of people tryin to get in the air force due to the fact that, well...they wont die in iraq