Most unballanced and ballance gun in 3.0?

[Violin]

I think the g3a3 is possibly the most ballanced.
Famas being the most unballanced.

I dont like how the famas is more accurate than the m4 in a game, but in real life the m4 is more accurate, thouygh i know this isnt real life, but it just baffles me.

[Yiggs]

I think the g3a3 is possibly the most ballanced.
Famas being the most unballanced.

I dont like how the famas is more accurate than the m4 in a game, but in real life the m4 is more accurate, thouygh i know this isnt real life, but it just baffles me.
Im' going to disagree with you there. I think the ak74 is more balanced. But your opinion of the FAMAS is right on!

[Memorex]

Famas is a whore gun, I love to use it. It's not always the best choice though. I'd say Famas is slightly unbalanced, but most balanced.. is probably the G3, or AK74 as mentioned above.

[puke o'hara]

If you're playing on a public server with random people, FAMAS might seem unbalanced because your typical super elite pLAYA can't hit shit beyond about two feet and getting that close is easy when most people are staring at corners. Even then, shooting the said pLAYAs shouldn't be too hard if you try not to run straight into them and can actually aim at them. Personally, I think that if any gun in 3.0 is unbalanced, the saiga is.I dont like how the famas is more accurate than the m4 in a game, but in real life the m4 is more accurate, thouygh i know this isnt real life, but it just baffles me.tear

[Violin]

Personally, I think that if any gun in 3.0 is unbalanced, the saiga is.

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[straw]

I think the famas was balanced a long time ago, people just can't get over being killed by good players with it. Anyone who uses the M4 and whines about the famas is a fucking retard.

[Vulpes Foxnik]

I think the famas was balanced a long time ago, people just can't get over being killed by good players with it. Anyone who uses the M4 and whines about the famas is a fucking retard.
Both those weapons are unbalenced compaired to the other. The Sagia is a trifle compaired to those two. The Aug was a ballence weapon compaired to today's M4 and Famas.:rolleyes:

[Matt]

I saw famas because of a few things.
First, the fact you can get full armor and that gun. I know you can do the same with those guns but those guns you need to know how to use them.
Secondly, the famas u can fire from long distance on semi and hit stuff with mark1.

[puke o'hara]

Both those weapons are unbalenced compaired to the other. The Sagia is a trifle compaired to those two.Yeah, exactly, I couldn't have said it better myself. You're clearly an individual who knows exactly what he's talking about when it comes to Firearms Half-Life multiplayer game thingy!

[Kamikazi_Watermelon]

g3a3 or m16 are to me the most balanced.

Famas has always been the most unbalanced and most whorable weapon in the game, easply since in version 3 the damage was rasied on it..... WHOS dumbass idea was that?

edit: I'v seen ppl auto snipe with the damn famas from like the window on red side bridge and take a guys head off on blue side bridge near the wall. NO gun should be able to do that but yet the famas can.... the famas is over used and is a pos.

[Yiggs]

Exactly, what's the point of SMGa and Shotguns if the famas shoots faster and more accurately?

[Fuzz`]

g3a3 or m16 are to me the most balanced.

Famas has always been the most unbalanced and most whorable weapon in the game, easply since in version 3 the damage was rasied on it..... WHOS dumbass idea was that?

edit: I'v seen ppl auto snipe with the damn famas from like the window on red side bridge and take a guys head off on blue side bridge near the wall. NO gun should be able to do that but yet the famas can.... the famas is over used and is a pos.
thats a really long way to autosniper someone from

[puke o'hara]

Exactly, what's the point of SMGa and Shotguns if the famas shoots faster and more accurately?So, FAMAS should be as good or worse than guns that cost just a bit more than half of the FAMAS's price? Even if you don't know anything about FA, you should realize what's wrong with your logic.

[Reveller]

balanced? g3a3

unbalanced? svd

[aeiou]

Most balanced was the beretta.

Most unbalanced was the aug.

[Violin]

I dont see whats wrong with the m4 really. :o

[Reveller]

I dont see whats wrong with the m4 really. :o

nothing at all

[ville]

Sterling > Famas

Anyway most balanced is Ak-74 or G3a3
Nothing really unbalanced in my opinion, every gun beats some other

[`tek]

best all around gun:

74.

game still depends on the hands of the user. Yes, I have seen some amazing shots from famas users, but only from "top tier" players. TBH, it really doesnt matter what gun some ppl use because more tehn likley if they can whore the famas, they can whore other weapons.


I mean, look at me. I am the best player firearms has ever seen. I made the 360 spin, quadkill, clay plant, cap obj move what it is today. No one, I MEAN NOONE, can do it quite like me. Sure, some can 360 spin, clay plant, cap. Some can even quad kill, clay plant, cap, but thier lack of artistry doing it makes it all meaningless. PLAY2WIN!!!



/kidding.

[TASTEE DUBBA C]

FAMAS duh cause its favorite user got ahold of the coding of the game.

Bizon, G3A3, M14, M16 are all pretty balanced.

[Reveller]

best all around gun:

74.

game still depends on the hands of the user. Yes, I have seen some amazing shots from famas users, but only from "top tier" players. TBH, it really doesnt matter what gun some ppl use because more tehn likley if they can whore the famas, they can whore other weapons.


I mean, look at me. I am the best player firearms has ever seen. I made the 360 spin, quadkill, clay plant, cap obj move what it is today. No one, I MEAN NOONE, can do it quite like me. Sure, some can 360 spin, clay plant, cap. Some can even quad kill, clay plant, cap, but thier lack of artistry doing it makes it all meaningless. PLAY2WIN!!!



/kidding.

play to win

[straw]

Both those weapons are unbalenced compaired to the other. The Sagia is a trifle compaired to those two. The Aug was a ballence weapon compaired to today's M4 and Famas.:rolleyes:
Maybe I would value your opinion if you actually played FA.

[Yiggs]

Maybe I would value your opinion if you actually played FA.
If he didn't, he wouldn't know what he was even talking about.

[puke o'hara]

He doesn't.

[Kamikazi_Watermelon]

the famas is whorable and overpowered end off story.
and the ak47 and 74 are not anymore powerfect than any other gun yet they cost 14 creds, someone was truly retarted when they made the cost of them more than a famas ... :|

[ThChosenOne]

the most balanced gun is the m14. i recently started playing again and i could basically own anyone with it.

now, if i were to pick up a famas, well, that's just another story.

[Violin]

Not just a story TCO, but an EPIC of Massive proportions.

[whuh?]

The famas was fixed when it finally required nomenclature. Thats all I bitched about, and it was fixed.

The m4 now has the second highest rof for assault rifles, coupled with 5 more rounds and option of suppressor, its defenitely the new gun.

But the g36 is just dead to me now. It lost all greatness to me from 2.9.

[ThChosenOne]

The famas was fixed when it finally required nomenclature. Thats all I bitched about, and it was fixed.

The m4 now has the second highest rof for assault rifles, coupled with 5 more rounds and option of suppressor, its defenitely the new gun.

But the g36 is just dead to me now. It lost all greatness to me from 2.9.

the g36 is a great gun now, get some skill.

[Violin]

TCO. Get a better attitude man... :\

[whuh?]

the g36 is a great gun now, get some skill.

pfft, why bother with that gun now that the sterling is my new baby.

[Kamikazi_Watermelon]

wtf the g36 is fubar and was messed up soo badly in v3.
U scope in gain better accurasy unscope and it go's down, even if you are still in semi unscoped it just sucks, the g36 must be the only gun in real life where the gun is accurat scoped but becomes crap unscoped. make no sence to me the gun would remain as accurat as it always was nomatter it being scoped or not.

[whuh?]

wtf the g36 is fubar and was messed up soo badly in v3.
U scope in gain better accurasy unscope and it go's down, even if you are still in semi unscoped it just sucks, the g36 must be the only gun in real life where the gun is accurat scoped but becomes crap unscoped. make no sence to me the gun would remain as accurat as it always was nomatter it being scoped or not.

In 2.7, the scope made it a laser.

[Kamikazi_Watermelon]

indeed but this thrend is about version 3and beside i never said int 2.7 it was perfect ;)

[mg23]

Puukko's probably the smartest person on these boards right now. And he's Finnish.

[Yiggs]

So the Finns are idiot? :confused:

[AmishMilitant]

In 2.7, the scope made it a laser.

Those were the days.........:cool:

[Toastar]

at least you're moddest tek

[Fuzz`]

Puukko's probably the smartest person on these boards right now. And he's Finnish.
i'll second that and add that "most balanced gun" is a really stupid concept.

[TASTEE DUBBA C]

Maybe I would value your opinion if you actually played FA.

yeah he needs a <.!@#$%CLAN%$#@!.> tag on his name for his opinion to matter cause pubbers are stupid nubs lol

[puke o'hara]

No, his perception of the game just needs to coincide with the reality of it.
Puukko's probably the smartest person on these boards right now. And he's Finnish.The state of things is sad indeed.

[Noirceur]

People often seem to forget the guns are coded by someone, meaning that he/she has the say-so as to what guns do what. So if the coder in-charge wants a good game, he codes the guns accurately. If he/she wants one gun to rule the others, ditto. Not saying that coding or balancing is easy however.

[mg23]

People often seem to forget the guns are coded by someone, meaning that he/she has the say-so as to what guns do what. So if the coder in-charge wants a good game, he codes the guns accurately. If he/she wants one gun to rule the others, ditto. Not saying that coding or balancing is easy however.
Are you insinuating that sgoss deliberately attempted to curve the FAMAS to be super-awesome-neato? Because if you are,


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[waktasz]

MG, Swedes are better.

Check my avatar for proof

[mg23]

MG, Swedes are better.

Check my avatar for proof
Probably the hottest man alive.

[waktasz]

+30 points if you know who it is.

No google.

[puke o'hara]

MG, Swedes are better.

Check my avatar for proofOnly in hockey, which is for sexual deviants anyhow.

[OmegaForte®]

Unbalanced? I'll go with the M4. Oh sure you say it's innacurate, but it's innacurate to the point of rediculous. You run up to me, I have Famas, you have M4. I die first, even if I've got your head in my sights on full auto, and you're 4 feet from me. The M4 has to be the most screwed gun, and if it makes it into this new mod, I want it fixed. 2 bullets from the M4, I'm dead, half a clip from the famas, you're dead. Yeah, you can silence the M4, but the famas has an inner-barrel grenade launcher, and can be fitted with an underbarrel simular to the one that can be added to the G36E. Then again, if you wanna get really out there, the Mp5 can also handle an M203, so can the M4.

I've begun to rant..I still stick with the M4 as the most unbalanced, and I say the most balanced is the Famas. Yes, I said it. The famas cuts through ammo, and has a lower max-cap compared to the others. The G3 is ment to be accurate in auto, and you pay for it with 20 7.62's. 25 5.56's isn't much higher.

Then again, we've got the G36E, which is a formidable rifle, but gets no press when it's more versitile than the smaller, but somehow more deadly 74U, without the GP25/30.

When you get down to it, there's only one gun that's balanced to you, and unbalanced to you. Some say the 74U is the most balanced, but it's the most accurate automatic weapon in auto. I say the famas is the best, because it makes me react faster than you, and if I don't, I'm dead. It's all personal preferance. I love the 74U, but I hate the fact that I can't get a bayo instead of the gp25.

[Yiggs]

*cries* why'd they have to fuck up the g36e?

[whuh?]

*cries* why'd they have to fuck up the g36e?

Because they mistakenly gave the sterling uberness.

Though that better not get touched.

[SmurF]

Famas- Overpowered and too accurate equals, irl it sucks ass, its a shitty gun.
Balanced would have to be the AKs, and the G3A3.

[puke o'hara]

Thank you for your input on the FAMAS, no doubt based on extensive personal real-life experience.

[KryptoN]

Unbalanced: Both g36e (semi-useless) and famas (too useful)

Balanced: There is no such thing as "the most balanced gun(s)"

[whuh?]

Famas isnt uber powerful anymore. It lost both the damage and default quick reload it once had. All it has is its close range firepower and good single shot accuracy.

Even then, other guns can still take it no problem.

[puke o'hara]

Second worst accuracy of all ARs doesn't seem too good to me.

[Satan's Mosquito]

everyone who wines about the famas whines because they get owned by people who use it, and generally they can't use it themselves.

the best players in the game use, and own with it, thats why people think its "whored" and "unbalanced".

[Kamikazi_Watermelon]

everyone who wines about the famas whines because they get owned by people who use it, and generally they can't use it themselves.

the best players in the game use, and own with it, thats why people think its "whored" and "unbalanced".
It is a totle n00b gun has super high rate of fire for good cqb
1) more bullets hitting in small amont of time = more damage = easy kill
2) very fast reload time (with noman, even with out noman has pretty good speed)
3)totly way too accurat i seen meny times ppl auto snipe with it.
4)in version 3 famas damage was upped.
5)its cheep, can easly get full heavy armor, or full medum and clay or sidearm.
(all AR's cost 13 creds yet the ak's are 14. That is retarted all AR's should have there own price or if not all be the same)

satan you are only defending the famas as you use the famas, but we all know it is overpowed and unbalanced easply since v3 damags was upped :mad:

[Satan's Mosquito]

It is a totle n00b gun has super high rate of fire for good cqb
1) more bullets hitting in small amont of time = more damage = easy kill
2) very fast reload time (with noman, even with out noman has pretty good speed)
3)totly way too accurat i seen meny times ppl auto snipe with it.
4)in version 3 famas damage was upped.
5)its cheep, can easly get full heavy armor, or full medum and clay or sidearm.
(all AR's cost 13 creds yet the ak's are 14. That is retarted all AR's should have there own price or if not all be the same)

satan you are only defending the famas as you use the famas, but we all know it is overpowed and unbalanced easply since v3 damags was upped :mad:

i think the famas is the second least accurate assault rifle from what i've heard.

the ak74 is a much better gun than the famas. i only use famas on small maps, but for large maps i think the AK's or the G3A3 would be better.

[Stig]

Most Balanced : AK47. Yeah.
I want to say the M16 or G3, but they're both a bit weak (M16's ROF will always bog it down, regardless of how accurate it is and the G3 doesn't do the damage that it should).

Unbalanced : Famas (with the m249 and m4 right behind it)
This thing has never been balanced. I don't think that it's even possible. The problem is, and always will be, with the ROF.

[FaKToR]

I don't know about the most "balanced" but unbalanced for 3.0 is the Sagia. That was way too powerful. The famas would be second, though I would point out that because the famas is useful at long range it probably is really close for being the most unbalanced. There really aren't any downsides to the famas. It has the second highest ROF (first being the uzi apparently) but it has the power of a rifle so it owns in cqc. It's got good accuracy so it can do well at long range. Nomenclature was supposed to balanced the famas, but thanks to sgoss's "coding" you don't need marks 1 so you can just grab nomen right off the bat in which case it reloads really fast (though I would give it to anyone who points out that the nomen reload on the m4 is ridiculous).

[Bobo*the*Clown]

omg..I'm agree with faktor. /me hangs head in shame

Unbalanced-Saiga. Absolutely ridiculous to see a saiga bunny hopper take out a prone m-60. Retarded beyond belief. The wall of lead that thing spits out is obscene.

Balanced...wtf does that mean? Realistic? Non-whorable? Good to use wherever you need? Under the last idea...the Famas is the most balanced. If you want a gun you can use anywhere in any situation...that's your gun. Out snipe those pesky SVD whores; perferate those sneaky m-4/mp5's that pop out at you. All while wearing full heavy. If balanced means a generally good gun that's got excellent accuracy when used properly without being insanely overpowered...i'd have to go with the SSG. It'll drop someone with a single shot, but you gotta be patient. It does what it's supposed to do...no surprises.

[Kamikazi_Watermelon]

i do not care how meny ppl say the famas is the 2nd less accurat AR why cos it dose not seem it, i have seen ppl as i said auto snipe with the famas at great ranges so has smurf and i sure there are a few other ppl that have seen this, i have never seen an m4 auto snipe i never seen any other ar auto snipe, only the famas.
Thus no matter how meny ppl say it is less accurat or show my documents saying it is then i still will laugh as from in game experiances it is uber accurat in all modes and is overpowered.