EVE lol

[DunNa]

I just felt like making the first EVE thread so I did. This first post is clean as can be just to help "work with" the new rules.

Ideally this may get sticked and left as "the" EVE thread just to keep down on having a thread everytime someone feels like getting into the game or making a new movie.

[DunNa]

First REAL post :D

Anyhow I'm currently training up for Caldari Recons it shouldn't be to much longer, once I have the recons skills done (maybe a month, month and a half) I'll start on Caldari HACs just since I would have alot of the base skills already.

[Onyx]

I would learn how to play it, but I simply do not have the time at the moment.

[Captain Colon]

It doesn't take a lot of "learning" per se, just a fuckload of asking "hey what does this do"

[ShatXIII]

My thrasher will own you all :D

I see a few of you V-H-I guys around Bosboger and Alakgur. I keep meaning to say hi, but that big red minus next to y'all discourages me :p

[Captain Colon]

what's a little exploding amongst friends? :D

[Discobird]

First REAL post :D

Anyhow I'm currently training up for Caldari Recons it shouldn't be to much longer, once I have the recons skills done (maybe a month, month and a half) I'll start on Caldari HACs just since I would have alot of the base skills already.

Falcon or Rook? And which HAC are you going for?

I need to decide whether I should train for a Geddon (:fier:) or Pilgrim (:ninja:) next... suggestions welcome

[Discobird]

My thrasher will own you all :D

I see a few of you V-H-I guys around Bosboger and Alakgur. I keep meaning to say hi, but that big red minus next to y'all discourages me :p

Wait, red minus or red skull? :o

[DunNa]

Falcon or Rook? And which HAC are you going for?

I need to decide whether I should train for a Geddon (:fier:) or Pilgrim (:ninja:) next... suggestions welcome

Rook and Falcon are almost identical, one cloaks and the other can do damage. I'm leaning more towards the falcon simply because cloaking is fun and it has a nicer paint job :P

As for HACs I was thinking eagle I find I really like guns more than missles after using both abit. Ideally if I could just have any HAC and skip the skill trains I'd like a Munin but I'd never actually bring myself to train that many skills :P

I'm also eventually gonna grab some amarian BS's but thats on the "eventually" list.

I'd say go geddon/apoc first and rat like a mad man for loads of cash while training for your curse (so you can then afford a leet curse). Not to mention the BS would be inherently more useful for fleets (which it looks like will be needed more and more).

[Discobird]

Yeah, its cheapness and utility in fleets makes me lean towards the Geddon. Not so much the ratting, though... lasers don't seem so hot against Guristas (Usurpers for example take 2.5x less damage from EM compared to kinetic =/). I guess I could fit an Apoc with bang bang instead of pew pew but that idea makes me sad :( Then again I doubt a Curse/Pilgrim would rat much faster.

What I'd really like to know is how good the Geddon is at pirating (not solo). AFAIK no one else in the corp flies them so a VHI Geddon would be a novel sight in Bosboger, at least :lincoln:

Rook and Falcon are almost identical, one cloaks and the other can do damage. I'm leaning more towards the falcon simply because cloaking is fun and it has a nicer paint job :P
Is the cov-ops cloak that useful on a Falcon though? It's not like you'll be the first tackler at the scene, right? What else is the cov-ops cloak good for (compared to the other cloaks)? Probing?

[Splitlip]

I hear good things about missile curses ratting.
if any of you dont already know about it... http://www.Scrapheap-Challenge.com its a minmatar focus'd forum, but everyone knows that if you know anything about minmatar you know a little bit about everything.....er....something like that. Anyway, very useful forum, better community than the EVE-O boards too.

[SWATJester_os]

I'm not actually playing right now, I just log in every time a skill finishes to train up the next one.

[neko]

Dang I was just about to make a thread about EVE asking what to do in order to play with you guys.

[Stig]

I'm working on getting Caldari Frigate 5 (or was it Gallente..?) right now. It'll be done tomorrow and I can get a fucking Crow and not use it. Missiles make me so sad, but I can't deny that they're useful.
I'll probably work on my small weapons next and max those out.

I need to actually play a little instead of stupidly training everything.

[ShatXIII]

Wait, red minus or red skull? :o

Red minus :P I dont think there is a red skull...

[Captain Colon]

I'm working on getting Caldari Frigate 5 (or was it Gallente..?) right now. It'll be done tomorrow and I can get a fucking Crow and not use it. Missiles make me so sad, but I can't deny that they're useful.
I'll probably work on my small weapons next and max those out.

I need to actually play a little instead of stupidly training everything.
Hey I'll be able to fly a crow once I get caldari frigate to 5 too :) We should go ratting until we have all faction gear and then just fly around heavy ganking areas pissing people off with our 20km/sec ships :lincoln:

[Enders]

I haven't played too recently, should start it back up

I'm stuck out in 0.0 with Sniggerdly, training up the last few days of frigate 5. Hopefully I'll be able to rat out here soon enough. Salvaging and the kills don't bring too much cash

[Captain Colon]

You're in VHI right? Ask someone if you can rat with them (leech off them). If I had someone to tank I can do decent DPS in my incursus with T2 blasters, so if anyone's got good tank but can't break the big ones let me know cause I need cash REALLY fucking bad.

[Anti-Llama]

It doesn't take a lot of "learning" per se

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH WOW

[neko]

I found a link to a 14 day trial and I am thinking about playing for those 2 weeks. Where does VHI hang out at? The last time I played was summer 06 and I didn't get to play for all 2 weeks :/

[Discobird]

You're in VHI right? Ask someone if you can rat with them (leech off them). If I had someone to tank I can do decent DPS in my incursus with T2 blasters, so if anyone's got good tank but can't break the big ones let me know cause I need cash REALLY fucking bad.

Psst talk to me dude, I can tank all day in my Arbi (tried up to 2x 1.85M and 3x 1.55M spawns with no problem) but it takes me a long time to break their tanks.

[Captain Colon]

I talk to you all the time and you just act like a total queer d:D Okay, I dunno if I'll be able to get up to TDE tonight, depending on how that fleet op goes (i'll be out for it :() and if hostiles are out for blood, but once I make it up there we'll go get $$$$$$
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH WOW
Read my post douchebag. The gameplay is simple point and click, it just takes a while to really understand how to fit out your ship for total rockage and stuff.

[DunNa]

Yeah, its cheapness and utility in fleets makes me lean towards the Geddon. Not so much the ratting, though... lasers don't seem so hot against Guristas (Usurpers for example take 2.5x less damage from EM compared to kinetic =/). I guess I could fit an Apoc with bang bang instead of pew pew but that idea makes me sad :( Then again I doubt a Curse/Pilgrim would rat much faster.

I was able to rat in a harb solo rather fine (even with my horrible gunnery + armor skills) I couldn't tank triple bs's all day but I think thats more to due with my horrible amar skills and not the ship.

While a raven will be an inherently faster ratting ship it has the downside of ammo. You might take longer to actually down some rats but you will never have to spend ANY money on ammo once you get your crystals, this also allows alot of cargo room for salvage loot, nifty named mods, or random mods to reproc for mins (to then sell or use).

Thats the key reason I like ratting with amarian ships. This will become alot more clear once you start looking at Kin missle prices in TDE (or have to start constantly making your own from mins). Also you can stay out there at your triple 1.8 aslong as you wanted without a single limiting factor.

The idea that "well they do less damage" would be a factor if they weren't able to tank or gank down the rats but they can do either it just takes abit longer. Also the damage isn't "that" bad, missles are pretty low dps compaired to say a 7x mega pulse or something like that. It honestly isn't that bad ratting with amar out there imo.

Is the cov-ops cloak that useful on a Falcon though? It's not like you'll be the first tackler at the scene, right? What else is the cov-ops cloak good for (compared to the other cloaks)? Probing?

Well it could probe, its not like one or two heavy missles without any bonuses do much. If I'm cloaked at the start of a fight I'm much less likely to get "zomg ecm primary!!!!". I'd also wager that if I really got down to it with the 20sec cycle times + cov ops cloak I could throw out all my ECMs, cloak for 10sec or so, uncloak rejam, rinse repeat, though thats more or less something to look into and I'm not sure how possible that is.

A rook is basicly a "short ranged" cara as far as dps goes. Thats not exactly something to brag about nor something to just shrug off, but over all rooks generally cost more and just don't offer that much in the way of damage to compinsate for the security a cov ops cloak gives.

[BattleWhack]

Ahhh back to EVE again, feels like coming home.

[Captain Colon]

What exactly do you DO in eve, BW? Are you mostly ratting or hanging out with Xonja and instilling fear in everyone who enters bos?

[BattleWhack]

I alternate between ratting in 0.0 and pirating in empire. Right now I'm a lull as I train for t2 large rails for my sexeh rokh, and I'm trudging through learning skills so I can get my miner account up and making money.

[Enders]

You're in VHI right? Ask someone if you can rat with them (leech off them). If I had someone to tank I can do decent DPS in my incursus with T2 blasters, so if anyone's got good tank but can't break the big ones let me know cause I need cash REALLY fucking bad.

No, I'm not in VHI

VHI didn't want me :(

[Splitlip]

2 weeks till minmatar HACs.
do I buy 1 vagabond and slut it up, nano-stylie, yo.....
....or 3 muninns of auto-cannon dooooom rape.
Vags' are too damn expensive...still...

[DunNa]

Arty Munnin, its like a tempest but slightly smaller :P

[marty]

What do you think about the 6 devs being in one BOB corp thing?

Now, I'm sure there might not have been any impropriety, but that's practically 1/4th of the dev team being in one corp. Bad PR, but it doesn't affect me.

Tsk tsk, though

[Maddog]

we're all are in the same corp because we know each other, you think they wouldn't do the same thing? I think that this dev thing has gotten blown way way out of proportion and has become the Eve witch hunt, blaming everything on devs, but not giving substancial proof other than ''this person said that htis person said that this person did this...''. waaaaaa BoB is big and powerful, they couldn't possibly have done it on their own! Cry me a river. Yes devs play the games they make, im going to do the same thing, we're all just people looking for a good time.

[Splitlip]

Doesnt really bother me, they made a great game and like to play it. Its getting blown out of proportion by people who want what BoB has. I actually agree with the banning of the guy who hacked everyhones forum accounts and spied/raised a stink about it. He did shitty things outside the game to effect things inside the game, if he had infiltrated BoB and found all this out with an alt, I dont think it would be as big of a deal.

[BattleWhack]

Yeah, people bitch too much.

[Psyche]

ive got almost all my learning skills trained. just have 2 more to get to lvl 5 and the current one that's halfway there. then i might actually play ^^

[neko]

I just started playing again and I am still doing the tutorial. I remember how to do most stuff like simple combat and mining but I'm relearning other things.

[DunNa]

Its getting blown out of proportion by people who want what BoB has.

I think its less that and more people not wanting to get raped by the unbeatable. The only real force that stood a chance vs BoB has been beaten. There is nothing any other alliance/group of alliances can really do to stop them if they decided to attack somewhere.

The only real thing limiting BoB atm is logistics and keeping 100000000 large towers running. Supposedly they are up to 2 titans with a friendly alliance (forget who) also has one. What can anyone really muster aginst that, and I'm being totally serious. Even if someone went and bought billions of isk online and got a titan somehow (and the multiple pilots needed) they still really wouldn't have much of a chance as almost all the good vet pilots are in BoB.

The fact that a vast majority of the designers are all in this alliance aswell is just icing on the cake. Personnally I really don't have a problem with the CCP in BoB thing its more just BoB in general. The reason they got to where they are is by getting lucky with T2 lotterys and controlling those markets. The main point of the conspiracy and why they arn't wanting to flat out remove the t2 lottery is because so many of the devs directly benefit/don't see the other side.

BoB will fall eventually simply due to not having anything to do. Eventually they will control all the space thats not friendly and then what? Sit around getting money and killing NPCs? How many people will have been driven off by then? Like if BoB basicly came and completely raped TDE/smash/vhi theres no more real reason to play, its just not worth the effort I would can the account and move on. The sad part of it is, is that BoB is completely capable of doing that if they wanted.

[Captain Colon]

Do we have any offices in/around The Forge so neko can apply to VHI? ^_^

[BattleWhack]

People what were are seeing here is the EVE version of Star Wars coming into fruition.

The Empire is growing.


The rebels need us.

TO ARMS!!!!!

[Maddog]

Its going to be interesting times to see if some of the other alliances can come together to resist BoB

[BattleWhack]

I'm willing to bet BoB will fall apart from the inside out before they get shot up by other alliances.

[Enders]

I'm willing to bet BoB will fall apart from the inside out before they get shot up by other alliances.

I highly disagree

Right now, there is a mass of alliances moving on BoB space from North and South
I'll pull up the list here

RA
TCF
GoonSwarm
IAC
CA
AAA
D2
IRON
MM
Razor
Pandemic Legion
SMASH Alliance
KOS
CLS

-VS-

BoB
MC
FIX
RISE
Xelas
LV
ISS

I know personnally Pandemic, Goon, and others (maybe RA) are moving on LV's titan making POS tonight.

[BattleWhack]

GoGo SMASH :D \m/

[Enders]

I got my fraps warmed up and ready

[Maddog]

well, ill be damned, looks like the BPO scandal was true

http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=424

[neko]

God damn I wish I had a badass ship should I could see an epic space battle.

[Enders]

The general consenus is that we won't see anything, just a blue light and we'll wake up in a station somewhere

[DunNa]

I'm willing to bet BoB will fall apart from the inside out before they get shot up by other alliances.

Mainly since thats the only way its possible, or a new space MMO will come out and BoB being bored to tears without a real fight will move onto that.

For any alliance to have a real chance (even alliances of alliances) BoB would need to lose its friends such as LV and all that jazz. While those alliances arn't monstrosities of dewm like BoB they allow them to opperate more freely and also put a hurt into the resistances side. If all BoBs friends were converted, the north was unified, and most of the alliances could put there petty bitch fits about land away for a month or two BoB could be defeated, in the since of taking out there logistics and making them lose towers. Even then, the prospect of sending fleets to face 2+ titans isn't exactly a bright idea.

Basicly BoB isn't going anywhere unless they just spontaniusly combust.

[DunNa]

The general consenus is that we won't see anything, just a blue light and we'll wake up in a station somewhere

Actually its yellow, and with all the lag you will see a big flash about 5 frozen frames of your pod, and then a station :P

[PsychoMantis]

Of the groups that are moving in on BoB, my corp was invited to live in Iron/FLA space. A Day later, the forum posts guaranteeing our safety were deleted and several of our corp members were podded by people who had guided us safely into their territory. I actually want BoB to win this fight, as much I don't like them. FLA sent off viable reinforcements in leiu of... we were neutral.

Anyways, I'd love to go 0.0 sec hunting with you guys in my Jaguar. I always wanted an interceptor around that could pin down a fat industrial while I reamed it with tech 2 artillery.

[DunNa]

Oh another thing worth mentioning, those bpos have made how many billions of ISK that are unaccounted for and helping BoB? How many sabres were used to great effect at ruining ASCN and any other faction. The shear amount of money from Spike ammo and the damage gained in combat from it is sorta unreal if you look at it from the perspective that hes had it since RMR went live. Think about if he got those BPOs got mad money from selling BPCs and then purchased other T2 bpos with all that money (such as rapiers or huggins since at the release of RMR were deemed rather crappy but are now basicly gods).

Personnally all the BoB/war/bullshit in smash is making me think about not resubbing once my current thing is over. So much bullshit, so little (if anything) gained.

[ShatXIII]

God damn I wish I had a badass ship should I could see an epic space battle.

Actually, driving a badass ship in an epic space battle is a good way to get called primary ;)

[BattleWhack]

Actually, driving a badass ship in an epic space battle is a good way to get called primary ;)

Yeah, :p

[neko]

Actually, driving a badass ship in an epic space battle is a good way to get called primary ;)

So would I be able to spectate in my Condor? :P

[marty]

So would I be able to spectate in my Condor? :P

No, you'd be shot down by the other tag-alongs :D

[Yiggs]

Ahhh back to EVE again, feels like coming home.

A home with an abusive parent. :(

[Captain Colon]

A home with an abusive parent. :(
Yeah only for everyone in VHI :(

[Splitlip]

Dont make me angry like that baby, thats why I had to hit you. Why you always makin me hit you? You makin me hit you makes me mad baby, thats why I hit you.

[BattleWhack]

Dont make me angry like that baby, thats why I had to hit you. Why you always makin me hit you? You makin me hit you makes me mad baby, thats why I hit you.

toffle

[Captain Colon]

Haw haw :(

I've been ratting/salvaging with my ranis (D:!) and making some decent money, should have a Myrmi by the end of tonight if I don't get bored and go to bed.

*E* aw FUUUUUUUCK 90% tax D:!!!!!! Guess I'll just fit 4 salvagers instead of 1 then

[BattleWhack]

yeah, 90% days are the ones I go help the fleet :)

j/k

[Psyche]

so my friend gave me a merlin and a condor =o

[Captain Colon]

I would've given you those next time I hopped to empire if you wanted them. When I get enough money to buy a myrmidon i'm gonna hook neko up with a kestrel and shit to run missions in.

Assuming i get teh cash before his trial is up.

If I'm ever in empire, you and neko should get together and we can run my level 3/4 missions so you guys can make some cash. That's the biggest limiting factor in this game IMO, your power is determined almost solely by your wealth.

[Psyche]

I would've given you those next time I hopped to empire if you wanted them. When I get enough money to buy a myrmidon i'm gonna hook neko up with a kestrel and shit to run missions in.

Assuming i get teh cash before his trial is up.

If I'm ever in empire, you and neko should get together and we can run my level 3/4 missions so you guys can make some cash. That's the biggest limiting factor in this game IMO, your power is determined almost solely by your wealth.

i can always have more then one. he hooked me up with some implants too. and weapons.

[Yiggs]

My Drake is officially epic. It tanked 7 Battleships (750~ bounty) and a myriad of those 200k cruisers (which are a bitch to kill >:( ) all at once.

current shield stats are:

total shield hp: 12236 hp
shield recharge time: 222 seconds (base of 1000)
max hp/s recharge : ~135hp/s
and that's with room for 4 hardeners :D

thank you shield rigs!

[Splitlip]

I feel bad, I relocated to highsec to grind skills and yar when we switched to heavy corp tax periods...lol, i swear i didnt plan it.
We did have a pretty evil gank squad roaming Heimatar low-sec today, join op with Rat Pack. Didnt really get much action though, then my connection died :/

edit: neko, wtf is your character name...

[Maddog]

My Drake is officially epic. It tanked 7 Battleships (750~ bounty) and a myriad of those 200k cruisers (which are a bitch to kill >:( ) all at once.

current shield stats are:

total shield hp: 12236 hp
shield recharge time: 222 seconds (base of 1000)
max hp/s recharge : ~135hp/s
and that's with room for 4 hardeners :D

thank you shield rigs!

post your layout

[BattleWhack]

I'm about to change the tax rate back to 15. It's been a day, hasn't it?

I plan on ratting through the night anyway ^-^

I hope druz doesn't pod me :(

[Yiggs]

post your layout

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v122/Yiggi/layout.jpg

It's so heavily tanked atm becuase this mission is insane.

7x xr-3200 heavy missle launchers
2 LSEII's
Shield recharger II
3x hardeners
4x shield power relays

[Captain Colon]

I couldn't help but notice you have a drone link augmentor AND an empty drone bay :o

[Yiggs]

I couldn't help but notice you have a drone link augmentor AND an empty drone bay :o

Blame CCP for that. fucking crashes keep leaving me droneless. I haven't gotten around to putting something else that's useful up in that slot.

[Captain Colon]

O dat sux. When I have an extra slot I just throw a salvager in there and go around salvaging while I'm blowing everything else up. I make like 10 mil an hour in TDE that way if the sell prices for salvage parts are good.

[Dr Boners]

k eve dudes, i'm going to subscribe probably at the end of the month, but first
What ship is this? I saw it in the revalations trailer, it looks sexy

-e-
Nm, it doesn't seem to be working :\

[Captain Colon]

What does it look like :p If it looks like some kind of retarded fist thing then it's probably a Dominix or a Brutix, other than that I think the Caldari has highest number of badass-looking ships so maybe one of those.

[Enders]

What does it look like :p If it looks like some kind of retarded fist thing then it's probably a Dominix or a Brutix, other than that I think the Caldari has highest number of badass-looking ships so maybe one of those.

The bigger Gallente ones are the most hardcore looking
Megathron, Hyperion, Brutix, Nyx, etc.

[Splitlip]

if its brownish its minmatar
if its grey its calradi
if its greenish it gallente
if its yellowish its amaar.

Tech2 ships dont follow the color scheme as close.

[Dr Boners]

It was yellow, so probably Amaar, it had 5 engines, 3 at back, 2 on tips of the wings.

[Yiggs]

This?:http://www.destabiliser.com/eveships/albums/userpics/amarrharbinger01.jpg

[Dr Boners]

This?:http://www.destabiliser.com/eveships/albums/userpics/amarrharbinger01.jpg

That'd be it.

[Captain Colon]

Harbringers kick ass, Disco flies one a lot.

[neko]

I feel bad, I relocated to highsec to grind skills and yar when we switched to heavy corp tax periods...lol, i swear i didnt plan it.
We did have a pretty evil gank squad roaming Heimatar low-sec today, join op with Rat Pack. Didnt really get much action though, then my connection died :/

edit: neko, wtf is your character name...

Guntaru N'uugata

[Dr Boners]

Harbringers kick ass, Disco flies one a lot.

What class is it? I'm trying to find it on the item database.

[DunNa]

What class is it? I'm trying to find it on the item database.

Its a battle cruiser (amarian), you wouln't find it in the DB since it hasn't been updated in afew decades.

You will need Battle cruiser 2, and the additional skills it takes to get battle cruiser. It should be possible depending on how you pick you skills as a nub to get into a BC in afew days. It uses medium lasers (energy weapons), and armor tanks. IT can also fit 5x medium drones so thats another thing to look at getting, but those armor skills + lazorz are more important imo.

[neko]

Guys I have the money (429,000 ISK) and skills to buy a Merlin. Obviously I should buy one but I'm not sure what weapons to get for it. I have 2 standard missile launchers and a 125mm railgun for my Condor, so should I get 2 more standard missile launchers and another 125mm railgun?

[DunNa]

You should get a kestral and put 4x rocket launchers on it. Then a light armor tank (like 1x small rep, and maybe a hardener or capacitor power relay (cpr)). The mids should have an AB and some stuff.

That will get you through alot of missions, effective even with low skills, and it looks pretty nice. From there look to get a caracel or move to amarian stuff.

Oh yeah whats your dudes name ingame?

[neko]

Guntaru N'uugata

[Dr Boners]

Its a battle cruiser (amarian), you wouln't find it in the DB since it hasn't been updated in afew decades.

You will need Battle cruiser 2, and the additional skills it takes to get battle cruiser. It should be possible depending on how you pick you skills as a nub to get into a BC in afew days. It uses medium lasers (energy weapons), and armor tanks. IT can also fit 5x medium drones so thats another thing to look at getting, but those armor skills + lazorz are more important imo.

hmm, sweet. I will look into it when i get an account running again (I don't have space for EVE until I finish editing my movie.

[Splitlip]

Guys I have the money (429,000 ISK) and skills to buy a Merlin. Obviously I should buy one but I'm not sure what weapons to get for it. I have 2 standard missile launchers and a 125mm railgun for my Condor, so should I get 2 more standard missile launchers and another 125mm railgun?


get another 125mm rail or 2 more 150mm rails, two standard launchers and as much of a sheild tank as you can fit. merlins are tough lil buggers, and they let you use rails, so you dont end up forgetting to train gunnery, and end up another caldari missile noob. You could just do what i did and train goddamn everything, and have a stupidly well rounded character after a year. i fly everything for all races up to battlecruiser, and minmatar, caldari, and gallente Interceptors and Assault Frigates. Oh, and minmatar and caldari(no ravens, gunnery focus'd so I fly a Rokh.) battleships.

Oh, and I'll give you some money tommorow.

[neko]

Ahh I ended up getting a Kestrel like DunNa said. I had to spend a lot of money to get rocket launchers and to buy the skills needed and such, but I should be good to go soon.

[Stig]

I'm going to create an alt with the intent of infiltrating a corporation and stealing everything that I can. I'll try to keep you guys updated on that.

So, what I'm really asking for is some advice for creating a miner. I am thinking an Asian Caldari with some decent intelligence, memory, and perception and then the occupation and specialization choices which start me off at Caldari Frigate IV. Then I'll work on some learning skills followed by the mining and then Caldari Cruiser for the Osprey.
Sound good?

[Maddog]

God damn, back in the day you had to train skills, none of this start off at IV bullshit :(

[Discobird]

I'm going to create an alt with the intent of infiltrating a corporation and stealing everything that I can. I'll try to keep you guys updated on that.

So, what I'm really asking for is some advice for creating a miner. I am thinking an Asian Caldari with some decent intelligence, memory, and perception and then the occupation and specialization choices which start me off at Caldari Frigate IV. Then I'll work on some learning skills followed by the mining and then Caldari Cruiser for the Osprey.
Sound good?

Someone in the corp (don't remember who) had a build that puts you in a Retriever in 14 days. You may wanna ask in corp mail.

[Stig]

God damn, back in the day you had to train skills, none of this start off at IV bullshit :(
What're you talking about? It's always been like that.
It only shaves a few days off of training anyways.

Someone in the corp (don't remember who) had a build that puts you in a Retriever in 14 days. You may wanna ask in corp mail.
I will look into this. Tomorrow.

[Discobird]

hmm, sweet. I will look into it when i get an account running again (I don't have space for EVE until I finish editing my movie.

Keep in mind that the Harbinger is pretty poor at PVEing against Angels, since they have high EM and Thermal resists. And it's passable but not great against Guristas rats, which is what we shoot in our alliance space. To put it in concrete terms-- my Harbinger does 77 DPS with its guns against Gurista Usurpers (1.85M bounty battleship). A Caracal using Scourge heavy missiles, with comparable skills and equipment, does 72 DPS with its launchers. The Harbinger's 50m3 drone bay helps a lot, but the resistance knock is still pretty painful-- the same Harb does 265 gun DPS pre-resistances, so its damage is getting cut by about 70% (the hypothetical Caracal does 140 raw DPS in comparison).

When I train Advanced Weapons Upgrades, I'll be able to fit a second heat sink which should boost my gun DPS by another 19%. :D

But if you're not carebearing it up, the Harb is a good PVP ship. I like pirating in it, it has a lot of gank and enough mids to solo if you want (omg 4 mids!). Plus it can carry 5 medium ECM drones, which should make it much more Nos resistant than otherwise-- haven't tried this yet since I just thought of it last night.

Whether you PVE or PVP you will need pretty good fitting, gunnery, cap, and armor tanking (no ship tanking bonus) skills. Especially cap and fitting.

[DunNa]

So, what I'm really asking for is some advice for creating a miner. I am thinking an Asian Caldari with some decent intelligence, memory, and perception and then the occupation and specialization choices which start me off at Caldari Frigate IV. Then I'll work on some learning skills followed by the mining and then Caldari Cruiser for the Osprey.
Sound good?

They have changed the character creator since you last saw it... You should be able to do that and then some. But yeah going osprey for a quick alt miner is a solid choice. Mining4 (for t2 miners) and you'll need to fit a co proc or two depending on skills. Once you get that work on drones (or ignore them they don't do that much).

Just play around with the new character creator, there is probably a much better way to start out a miner then going frig4.

[Stig]

They have changed the character creator since you last saw it... You should be able to do that and then some. But yeah going osprey for a quick alt miner is a solid choice. Mining4 (for t2 miners) and you'll need to fit a co proc or two depending on skills. Once you get that work on drones (or ignore them they don't do that much).

Just play around with the new character creator, there is probably a much better way to start out a miner then going frig4.
Yeah it is looking a lot nicer than it used to be. I forgot to mention that.
I'll mess with it and see what happens.

[marty]

The new creation process seems to spit out much higher skill-leveled characters

[Maddog]

What're you talking about? It's always been like that.
It only shaves a few days off of training anyways.
I dunno, I dont remember it doing much more than give you some skills at level 2 to get you started on the path you picked when I started playing back in 03

[Splitlip]

What're you talking about? It's always been like that.
It only shaves a few days off of training anyways.


I will look into this. Tomorrow.


Thats me. its right around 14 days. I dont remember it exactly, but i'll noodle around in a second here and see if i can remember how i did it.

edit:
Caldar-Achura-Stargazers-Industry-Prospector.
be warned: you will be able to fly shuttles and retreivers...lol, thats it.

[Captain Colon]

I dunno, I dont remember it doing much more than give you some skills at level 2 to get you started on the path you picked when I started playing back in 03
I'm pretty sure that they change it around every release to give you better characters, so new players aren't dicking around waiting to train frigate 3 before they can actually DO something in the game...cause that sucked balls.

[Stig]

Well, when I first started with Skyscorcher, I had already started off with level 4 something. I think it was gunnery, but I remember hitting level 4 frigate with one of my alts.

[Splitlip]

yeah you used to be able to rig it so you started with frig 4, but now you can start with frig V andf small gun V, be able to fly a wolf ina couple weeks, t2 guns not long after. of course, your support/fitting skills will suck ass and that wolf will get plowed under real fast.

[Captain Colon]

Yeah but you still kick mega ass with just a top-tier frigate and can make money a lot faster running missions than you used to be able to :(

I understand why they would do it but it's still annoying D:

[Rebus]

Thats me. its right around 14 days. I dont remember it exactly, but i'll noodle around in a second here and see if i can remember how i did it.

edit:
Caldar-Achura-Stargazers-Industry-Prospector.
be warned: you will be able to fly shuttles and retreivers...lol, thats it.

Heh. Yeah, by the end of 14d you should have more than enough training and ISK to fly/fit a retriever.

[Splitlip]

you can put him your miner in a procurer right away just about, then mine for 2 weeks and buy a retreiver off the profits from veldspar easy. I spent a little longer and trained drone + engineering skills just to make fitting and defense easier. drones V doesnt take all that long anyway.

[neko]

Wow whoever gave me 10,000,000 ISK, thank you! At first I thought I was still at 10,000 until I saw an extra set of 0's

[Splitlip]

10mil is chumpchange. but it will let you buy alot of skills right away. you hear me boy! I said skills not space hookers and space coke!

[Captain Colon]

Neko, you might want to grab all your stuff and head into gallente space and start building standing with their agents (federal intelligence office stations are good as they have mostly agents with kill missions), because most of our offices and hangouts are in gallente space. Then you can apply to VHI and be a pirate with us :D

[neko]

Where at in Gallete Space?

[BattleWhack]

So me and Deadi engaged a couple of BEES Corp targets last night around bosboger. It was a nifty little skirmish, I managed to locate the Hurricane one of them was flying in a belt, as I was ss'd just in warp range. I told Deadi to engage and he warped in with his Nighthawk and I jumped in with my Harpy, and the fight was on.

This was no chump change hurricane. Pretty much full t2 kitted, this was a mean battle cruiser. No match for a command ship and an assault frigate however. So I thought anyway.

I'm orbiting at 1000 meters, nos, web, scram, and neutron blasters spitting antimatter death. Deadi is just sitting in space, lobbing advanced heavy missiles for all he's worth. The cane had at first attacked the bigger ship, but upon seeing me, immediately targeted me instead.

In the end, he got me. It was so close, as we both exploded at the same time, that the killmail has my ship as a capsule, firing t2 small blasters :D

I lost about 20 mil on that ship, and the BEES guy lost around 80 mil for his. I'm happy with that, because me and deadi split his loot, and both got around 18 mil in loot each :)

Seconds after the cane and I exploded, however, his buddy warped in with a Myrmi, so we hauled balls.

The fun kept going for awhile, I returned in a Drake, and the cane pilot came back in another, although way less deadly hurricane.

We played cat and mouse around the galaxy for an hour, had a couple of skirmishes, but they knew they were beat, especially after the cane had to bug out and left his 5 t2 drones for us to kill.

So at the end of the night it was a pretty good deal.

I love harpies, and was sad to see it go, but I have plenty of 'em, and killing that pimped out cane was sweet.

[Stig]

left his 5 t2 drones for us to kill.
You loot that shit, dude. Just scoop'm up and sell them for phat cash.

And excellent work on the hurricane.

[Splitlip]

my uber t2 cane got rrrrrrr-aped by 2 other t2 canes....lol

[BattleWhack]

we couldn't scoop the drones :(

[Stig]

we couldn't scoop the drones :(
That's too bad :(

[Dr Boners]

New char, Javier Delic. Add me so we can have crazy fun eveness.

[PsychoMantis]

Finally got in my first 0.0 alliance, the Interstellar Alcohol Corporation.

Great fun so far. We only lost a Moa on the first trip to the base.

[Captain Colon]

Should've joined SMASH so we could hang out and make fun of all the people who take the game way too fucking seriously and yell at everyone who doesn't take a day off from work to come fight in a big fleet battle where you get 2FPS for a couple minutes and then you're suddenly back at your home station in a capsule.

[Enders]

Should've joined SMASH so we could hang out and make fun of all the people who take the game way too fucking seriously and yell at everyone who doesn't take a day off from work to come fight in a big fleet battle where you get 2FPS for a couple minutes and then you're suddenly back at your home station in a capsule.

It actually hasn't been that bad, only the mega-battles at JV were slide-show deals, and even then it was either me being dropped from the game or having some control over how I died :D

Small gangs are more fun fo sho

[PsychoMantis]

It actually hasn't been that bad, only the mega-battles at JV were slide-show deals, and even then it was either me being dropped from the game or having some control over how I died :D

Small gangs are more fun fo sho

Amen, small fights are where the fun is for me. Seems to me that's all the game can handle and it lets me use my frigates, so I'm happy.

[BattleWhack]

Supposedly the dev's are working on ways to stabilize the servers with massive amounts on pilots on 'em, so eventually these big fleet battles will get better, and pwn.

But yeah, I prefer the smaller scale engagements myself too.

hell who am I kidding, I prefer pirating.

yarrrrr

[Stig]

Oh my god, the Hurricane is easily the most sexy ship in this game. Like you can look at one all you want, but until you're actually piloting one... I just imagine myself in my pod with a raging boner all the time.

[Enders]

Oh my god, the Hurricane is easily the most sexy ship in this game. Like you can look at one all you want, but until you're actually piloting one... I just imagine myself in my pod with a raging boner all the time.

I have a raging boner for the Hyperion myself...

[Splitlip]

I have a raging boner for the Hyperion myself...

I dont think anyone in VHI flies those yet. All of our gallente blasterboat faglets are still running around in Megathron + its variants.
BS still has his Maelstrom I think. BW and I fly Rokhs alot, but I just use mine for ratting.
Oh, and tommorow, 1:15pm: Cruiser V is done, and I can go get me some for-cost Vagabonds from alliance. Rawr. (HAC III trained already.)

[Discobird]

Oh, and tommorow, 1:15pm: Cruiser V is done, and I can go get me some for-cost Vagabonds from alliance.
What :o :o :o

[BS87]

Yeah i still have my maelstrom. And in like, 2 weeks i'll be sitting in a t2 arty huggin with dual/tripple webs :D

[Splitlip]

What :o :o :o

Someone in alliance has the vagabond BPO. And there's also a huginn bpo in alliance as well, so....anyone thinking about minmatar cruiserV....do it.
Ask in game about it Disco, I'll tell you details if I'm on.

[DunNa]

Figures they'd have faggy minmatar bpos and not manly caldari/armarian bpos :(

[BS87]

Someone in alliance has the vagabond BPO. And there's also a huginn bpo in alliance as well, so....anyone thinking about minmatar cruiserV....do it.
Ask in game about it Disco, I'll tell you details if I'm on.

OMG Smash has a huggin BPO? fucking win for me!

[Captain Colon]

Supposedly the dev's are working on ways to stabilize the servers with massive amounts on pilots on 'em, so eventually these big fleet battles will get better, and pwn.
I've never really had problems with internet lag, I just get like 0.5fps when there's more than 10 ships around.

[BattleWhack]

Sucks to be you then :)

[Discobird]

Someone in alliance has the vagabond BPO. And there's also a huginn bpo in alliance as well, so....anyone thinking about minmatar cruiserV....do it.
Ask in game about it Disco, I'll tell you details if I'm on.

Damn... Vaga BPO = you win EVE

46 days and I'll have large pulse spec trained :D

[BS87]

Greatest EVE realted link of ALL TIME:
(Warning + rep incomig)

http://88.198.54.112/pub/svens_stuff/badgerbadgerbadger.html

[Yiggs]

Greatest EVE realted link of ALL TIME:
(Warning + rep incomig)

http://88.198.54.112/pub/svens_stuff/badgerbadgerbadger.html

wow, that was awesome.

[FlamingPotato]

VHI needs more badgers.

[Splitlip]

Train up gallente industrial, if grux sneezes too hard half a dozen Itty-V's fall out.
What i'm saying is we have alot of them.
Not that grux stores them internally.
Not that he couldnt.
He's a determined individual.

[Druzil]

I have a raging boner for the Hyperion myself...

Hyperions suck ass :(

I dueled one with my megathron and it was pretty even - we both put each other into structure at the same time.

The difference?

My set up costs maybe 40mil, 31mil for insurance, 100-105mil for the ship making the grand total come out to just under 180mil...

His set up cost him around 80mil, 75mil for insurance, 160mil for the ship, add another 60mil for rigs...his total: 375mil.

Double the price for something that's just as good as a megathron that isn't pimped with rigs....yay?

[Enders]

Hyperions suck ass :(

I dueled one with my megathron and it was pretty even - we both put each other into structure at the same time.

The difference?

My set up costs maybe 40mil, 31mil for insurance, 100-105mil for the ship making the grand total come out to just under 180mil...

His set up cost him around 80mil, 75mil for insurance, 160mil for the ship, add another 60mil for rigs...his total: 375mil.

Double the price for something that's just as good as a megathron that isn't pimped with rigs....yay?
Very true, and I'll probably get one just to have around or rat (Ie non-serious Pvp ship)
But hopefully they get a boost soon enough :kak:
They were supposed to be Gallente's ideal blaster platform

[BS87]

Very true, and I'll probably get one just to have around or rat (Ie non-serious Pvp ship)
But hopefully they get a boost soon enough :kak:
They were supposed to be Gallente's ideal blaster platform

too bad they already had that platform in the Mega

[BattleWhack]

Bump

Before I play EVE, I always watch druz's "wereback" movie.

[BattleWhack]

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/4273/20070331225231ef2.png

[Enders]

Rigging is fun ^_^

[Druzil]

arrr

arazu. (www.nanitestudios.com/VHI/images/arazu/arazu.JPG)

[Splitlip]

All OTF VHI: Log in and read corpmails, big shit going down. Totally not kidding.:arr:

[Daffy]

Whats the news for the unsubscribed?

[Captain Colon]

If you're in TDE you're gonna lose all your stuff and die :)

[Scraps]

I'm so tempted to subscribe to Eve.

[BS87]

Yeah if you're in TDE GTFO

[BattleWhack]

Bump...

Well, ... I dunno.


We're out of TDE for the most part now, just waiting for our german girly to get her shit out.

[marty]

I just put up everything for sale and bought a shuttle

All I had was a raven and its fittings, and honestly I paid too much for it and can get it muuuch cheaper everywhere else :/ (I am no longer hanging out in 0.0 for a looong time)

[Dr Boners]

Wtf, what happened? :o

[Discobird]

Check corpmail :o


:o

[BattleWhack]

VHI enganged a shit ton of Vigil people, culminating in a gigantic party of pwn as your local otf eve boys decimated a group of anti pirate fuckheads... movie in the link, download it :E



http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=504965

[Enders]

*snicker*
We had a 20 man gang up in qs-5 couple nights ago and we engaged some BoB pets, with a shiney new mothership being brought in overlooking it all
Not sure how it turned out, lost my enyo, but got this pretty little thing
http://www.snigg.com/killboard/view_kill.php?id=70744

EDIT:
nice video, a lot more exciting than our long ranged stuff

[Stig]

VHI enganged a shit ton of Vigil people, culminating in a gigantic party of pwn as your local otf eve boys decimated a group of anti pirate fuckheads... movie in the link, download it :E



http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=504965
Damn, that looked like fun. Way to own those guys.

[BattleWhack]

btw, if anyone didn't know, Druzil (DruzidelCastro ingame) makes all our movies, and is a big sexy hunk of love.

[Captain Colon]

what the fuck since when is that faggot in our corp



P.S. way to post your kill of a fellow corpmate's shuttle just to give yourself more points :D:D:D

[BattleWhack]

If you read the killmail, I got precisely zero points for that :) :)

[Anti-Llama]

Man i love EvE movies because the people always zoom so far out that you can literally not see anything at all but tiny dots and some random explosions LOL SO AWSOME. On a completely different note i want to play this so bad but its a shame that the tutorial is so horrible and the controls are the most contrived and complicated i have ever seen in a video game ever.

[Captain Colon]

I don't see where you could possibly have gotten the idea that a game that's almost entirely menu-based point-and-click is complicated D:

I think they redid the tutorial in the latest patch too.

[Anti-Llama]

Its not the act of pointing and clicking, its just the fact there is like 100 million things on the screen at a time and it gets confusing when you dont know what half the shit is.

[BattleWhack]

That's because this is a "big boy" game, it takes a little bit of smartiez to play it effectively :)


Seriously, once you get past the tutorial and get into the swing of things, it's stupidly addicting. The controls are actually really quite simple... come play :)

[Splitlip]

That's because this is a "big boy" game, it takes a little bit of smartiez to play it effectively :)


Seriously, once you get past the tutorial and get into the swing of things, it's stupidly addicting. The controls are actually really quite simple... come play :)

QFT, i mean, FFS, one of the guys in our corp is in his late 50's and constantly stoned. He can manange to play this "complicated and contrived" game....:arr:

[DunNa]

Yeah EVE isn't exactly complex and thats its downfall. It tries to be complex but it lacks it. At its heart EVE is a giant MSworks spread sheet and a simulation of an economy.
The actual combat once you understand the system is dull and rather uninspiring, all the excitement of combat doesn't come from "wooo I just completely out played that person" but from the risk you and the other combatants are taking in losing there ship/equipment and the time/money it will set them back. Fights like in that video happen once a blue moon and are almost always as one sided as that, everything you do before combat is what wins a fight not what you do during there is no "do the special evasive manuvers" or some such, ship load outs are cookie cutter or worthless (its just math, you add up the best your ship is capable of and fit it to do so). Oh did I mention even with all of that "good" fights are rare? I can think of probably 3 fights my character was ever in that were really good, of those 2 were flat out ganks and were merely fun just because it was 8 frigates vs a BS or some such and was just goofy to think about not to mention it looked cool. The other was seriously a good fight, it was myself and afew V guys vs about an equal number of some random corp with a white logo (fuck if I remember the name) everyone was a willing combatant and everyone was decently skilled/appeared to be for what they were flying, the sad part was while it was a "good" fight we ended up winning not due to our better flying or superior manuvering but due to the fact we gate camped them, we had intel on where they were coming and waited for them.
But what are you really fighting for? No matter how many times I kill my enemies they can always come back for more. Sure they might give up the fight because they are running low on money but what did it accomplish? Nothing, it strives for realism but it lacks purpose outside of getting a boner about ganking some noobs.

Its good fun as a chat system and has some really pretty places. Its has the best economy of any MMO and running part of the market for an area can be fun for awhile, though to be honest the greed needed to do it effectively just isn't in me I give to much shit away. The economy is also broken beyond repair without serious changes due to the nature of t2 blue prints and how they completely fuck over the market (its great if you can get one, or its completely horrible if you can't, and getting one is totally and completely luck based).

I prefer a game like WoW or 2142 when it comes to wanting great pvp, EVE just fails to give the goods in that respect. WoW combat has the matters of time and preperation and all that along with actual things you can do in combat to help you win or escape. 2142 is about strategy and player skill not about who can play 24/7 and farm up 2000000000000 isk to fund there ships endlessly (and thusly remove the risk of combat more or less entirely).

If you want to play it, go ahead, try and have fun and if you enjoy it good for you but after as much time as I spent trying to like it I really think I've given up on it.

[Stig]

who can play 24/7 and farm up 2000000000000 isk to fund there ships endlessly (and thusly remove the risk of combat more or less entirely).
This is why I wanted to get into the Espionage/Sabotage aspects of the game. But when all I'm doing is setting skills once every couple of days, it got kind of boring and when I forget about resetting a skill and I lose a day or two on skill training, it gets me way more angry than it should.
I'll probably get back into the game and finish training up my miner dude and then actually try to get him into a corp... but I don't have the time or interest to do it properly.

[Captain Colon]

it gets me way more angry than it should.
It just really sucks because it's TOTALLY wasted time...you didn't make any money and you didn't advance your character at all. I missed out on 5 days because I thought I had an 8-day skill going when I had an 8-HOUR skill going. It really just makes you want to stop playing sometimes because you end up so far behind schedule :huh:

It's the best and worst part of EVE imo...sure, you can improve your character even while you're not playing, but you also can't just go and power grind for a couple hours when you feel like it and get really far.

[BattleWhack]

I still get way more excited about battles in EVE more so that any other game I've played. The combat system IS simple, when you get down to the nitty gritty about it, but it's the number of variables in the system as a whole which makes it fun. Now, I agree, that for instance, gatecamping, I view as pretty freaking lame, and I hate doing it, but it does happen a lot. Nothing can prevent that, I don't think.

But as far as most of the fighting that is going on right now, it consists of basically looking for targets in a system, warping in and attacking them. Sure, you're pretty much assured to kill them, if you have enough people, but far more often than not, we'll have mebbe 3-4 ship gangs flying around, with more than a dozen enemies in the surrounding area. Are they afk? Or are they waiting for us to attack their friend, and come in and fuck us all up.

Actually 1v1 combat, yes, is sometimes pretty retarded. 1v1 rarely happens. I'm tired of typing, and I can't really express myself at the moment, but EVE as a whole really attracts me, and I don't think I'll be leaving for quite some time. It's just not a game style that everyone likes to play. Hell, I love FPS's as much as anyone, I've got a shit fucking ton of hours logged on bf2, and the only reason I don't play that as much as I used to is that my internet can be froggy sometimes, and most of my bf2 buddies are gone.

[Scraps]

I subscribed to EVE. Send me free monies :D

[Yiggs]

I haven't played EVE, even though I'm still subscribed in weeks. It's really the lack of variation between systems, constellations, regions, and the like. Each system is the same, only with different colors. I have a super sweet drake that tanks everything till the cows come home, but it's boring. I really wish there was more of a skill aspect to the game than just hitting orbit at and letting loose with everything. :\

[SWATJester_os]

I still get way more excited about battles in EVE more so that any other game I've played. The combat system IS simple, when you get down to the nitty gritty about it, but it's the number of variables in the system as a whole which makes it fun. Now, I agree, that for instance, gatecamping, I view as pretty freaking lame, and I hate doing it, but it does happen a lot. Nothing can prevent that, I don't think.

But as far as most of the fighting that is going on right now, it consists of basically looking for targets in a system, warping in and attacking them. Sure, you're pretty much assured to kill them, if you have enough people, but far more often than not, we'll have mebbe 3-4 ship gangs flying around, with more than a dozen enemies in the surrounding area. Are they afk? Or are they waiting for us to attack their friend, and come in and fuck us all up.

Actually 1v1 combat, yes, is sometimes pretty retarded. 1v1 rarely happens. I'm tired of typing, and I can't really express myself at the moment, but EVE as a whole really attracts me, and I don't think I'll be leaving for quite some time. It's just not a game style that everyone likes to play. Hell, I love FPS's as much as anyone, I've got a shit fucking ton of hours logged on bf2, and the only reason I don't play that as much as I used to is that my internet can be froggy sometimes, and most of my bf2 buddies are gone.

We're not gone, we're just 100 years in the future, playing 2142, which fixes SO many of the annoying things about BF2 and bf2c for that matter.

[BattleWhack]

Aye, I kind of faded out of BF2c a few months ago. I still enjoy vanilla bf2. I liked 2142 a little bit, but got tired of it. I hate the vehicles.

[Scraps]

bf2c got boring when fgts would exploit and we couldn't do shit about it.

[BS87]

I might just have to buy Bf2142 if Desert conflic doesnt pay off

[BattleWhack]

DCon is just way too gimmicky for my tastes.


Peh.

[BS87]

So, tell me. Is BF2142 worth it? i liked BF2, but i dunno if it wanna plop the cash down for 2142. If you all say it's worth it i might just Direct to drive it, if they offer that.

[Yiggs]

No jets, nuff said

[BS87]

I didnt like jets anyway. Man why did i have to lose my BF2 manual. I have the CD's teasing me here but no effin key -_-

*edit* Not-so-mod-friendly generator of some sort to the rescue!! ;)

[SWATJester_os]

Yes, 2142 is worth it. Plus, the unlock system is WAY easier to advance in than BF2's was.

[BS87]

Can i still be stealthy and semi-sniper whore though? or is it all our vehicles/titan crap

[Scraps]

So, tell me. Is BF2142 worth it? i liked BF2, but i dunno if it wanna plop the cash down for 2142. If you all say it's worth it i might just Direct to drive it, if they offer that.

I will drive up to newburg and buy it for you!
ps: get in irc NOW

[Scraps]

Yes, 2142 is worth it. Plus, the unlock system is WAY easier to advance in than BF2's was.

The unlock system is so easy to exploit. :D

[BS87]

I will drive up to newburg and buy it for you!
ps: get in irc NOW

Fine gimme like 3-4 days to get back into BF2 and i'll buy 2142


ps i have no idea what IRC channel i'm suppposed to be in.

[SWATJester_os]

Can i still be stealthy and semi-sniper whore though? or is it all our vehicles/titan crap

If you are recon class you have a tool that cloaks you like the Predator from the movies (its an unlock) and a further down unlock that makes it last longer. But you can't fire while cloaked, but its good for being stealthy.

The sniper rifles are good. Slightly worse than the USMC sniper rifles in BF2. There is an unlock sniper rifle for the Recon class that gets a more powerful sniper rifle, (sort of like the m96) but it only has 3 rounds per mag and a weird reddish tint to the scope. Opinions are mixed....I love it and am deadly with it, others think the base sniper rifles are better.

Other sniper upgrades include a scope stabilizer that is AMAZING, and an upgrade that lets you use the mouse wheel to scroll your scope's zoom in and out significantly.

If you want to snipe with the assault rifles, all 4 assault rifles in the Assault kit are accurate enough. The two base ones are pretty good. The Light AR (VOSS) is supposedly not accurate but in a twist it is actually insanely accurate (sort of like the G36E and G36C were supposed to be in BF2) and the Bauer Heavy AR is quite accurate though small clip size and lower ROF.

Oh, I should have mentioned earlier, classes were combined. Special Forces and Sniper class from BF2 combined to make the Recon class. So now if you pick Recon, your unlocks go up two trees: the Sniper tree and the Specops tree. But once you've unlocked them all, you can for instance, have the heavy sniper rifle and Claymores from the sniper tree, AND the c4 (RDX) from the recon tree. Also the Assault and Medic classes combined together into Assault. Then you have the Anti-Tank and Engineer class are combined now into Engineer, and the Support class is still the same, but improved.

Almost everything is an improvement. Plus, there is a LOT more use of vertical space, i.e. buildings with second and third story balconies seeing a lot of fighting. In BF2, they were there, but they were useless because tanks and choppers would blow you away.

But in BF2142, my favorite map is Camp Gibralter, because its almost a pure infantry map (all infantry and a handful of jeeps, and 1 assault walker per side that usually dies pretty quick due to LOTS of engineers) Anyway basically one side is doing a beach landing. They spawn on the beach, and fight their way up the beach slopes to a harbor facility, which has a lot of buildings with rooftop fighting positions, and a couple cranes for sniping. They make their way into an industrial complex, with a lot of ground level fighting across a wide open train station, and once they get to the complex, there is a huge section of catwalk on a second story for snipers to play in, with interspersed towers for cover, and most towers go up to a third floor balcony for more sniping pleasure.

Once they get past that, they get into a military base style area, where there are a couple of capture points that are two story buildings, with a LOT of balconies and split level fighting, and a couple of different routes with good chokepoints (that can be bypassed depending on what floor you are on, but those also are hotly contested balcony hallways because they have little cover).

It basically makes its way back to the other side's base (the assaulting team started with a single uncappable base, the defending team has I think 4 or 5 cappable points) which is a two story building, with plenty of balconies and catwalks to shoot down from, but is surrounded by a perimeter wall with its own balconies and catwalks that are accessible to the enemy. the base itself is sheltered and protected, but has an entry point hallway on each of the 4 sides on the ground floor, and 2 of the sides on the top floor. The bottom floor is protected from artillery by the grated floor of the 2nd story, but the flag is on the 2nd floor, which is exposed to artillery.

It's a SUPERBLY balanced tactical map. I've had games where we never let the team off the beach, and I've had games where we've been rolled up. I've had games where I've been pinned down in the rocks on the beach and could never get off, and I've had games where we just dominated all the way into the enemy base in 10 minutes. And then, I've had games where we push some of the way in, and come to a stalemate around the train station, or attacking and defending the military base section. It's absolutely exhilarating, and its never the same twice. That's why I usually play on 24/7 gibralter servers. It's like Strike at Karkand, but not exploitable. Oh, did I mention NO AIR UNITS AND NO TANKS?

[BS87]

Sold. Especially cause i cant unlock the P whatever other sniper rifle in BF2 for some reason.

*edit* THe L96 or whatever AWM looking clone. If i cant unlock that i'm stuck with the effin m24

[Pltcl Sniper]

swat whats your in game name in 2142

[SWATJester_os]

Fuck.....I'll tell you tomorrow or Wednesday when I get home. It's some variation off of SWATJester . I'm pretty sure it [4EU]P SWATJester but I'll have to double check.

[Scraps]

Fine gimme like 3-4 days to get back into BF2 and i'll buy 2142


ps i have no idea what IRC channel i'm suppposed to be in.
#otf_games irc.gamesurge.net

Sold. Especially cause i cant unlock the P whatever other sniper rifle in BF2 for some reason.

*edit* THe L96 or whatever AWM looking clone. If i cant unlock that i'm stuck with the effin m24
Dude do it.
If you are recon class you have a tool that cloaks you like the Predator from the movies (its an unlock) and a further down unlock that makes it last longer. But you can't fire while cloaked, but its good for being stealthy.
A word to the wise here the stealth thing will not save you when you run infront of a walker like people seem to love doing.
The sniper rifles are good. Slightly worse than the USMC sniper rifles in BF2. There is an unlock sniper rifle for the Recon class that gets a more powerful sniper rifle, (sort of like the m96) but it only has 3 rounds per mag and a weird reddish tint to the scope. Opinions are mixed....I love it and am deadly with it, others think the base sniper rifles are better.Really? I've come to realize that all 3 of the rifles are much more accurate than the sniper rifles in BF2.

Other sniper upgrades include a scope stabilizer that is AMAZING, and an upgrade that lets you use the mouse wheel to scroll your scope's zoom in and out significantly.
Those two have to be te most usefull unlocks in the game.
Oh, I should have mentioned earlier, classes were combined. Special Forces and Sniper class from BF2 combined to make the Recon class. So now if you pick Recon, your unlocks go up two trees: the Sniper tree and the Specops tree. But once you've unlocked them all, you can for instance, have the heavy sniper rifle and Claymores from the sniper tree, AND the c4 (RDX) from the recon tree. That and you can be a complete whore with the Lambert and have c4+claymores Also the Assault and Medic classes combined together into Assault. An evil combination imo Then you have the Anti-Tank and Engineer class are combined now into Engineer, and the Support class is still the same, but improved.
I find when I go back to playing bf2 I expect to have mines and a repair kit and mines with my A-T missiles
Almost everything is an improvement. Plus, there is a LOT more use of vertical space, i.e. buildings with second and third story balconies seeing a lot of fighting. In BF2, they were there, but they were useless because tanks and choppers would blow you away.I love sitting on ahttp://forums.worldatwarmod.com/showthread.php?p=578752&posted=1#post578752 balcony and surpressing with the Bianchi or Shucko(sp?) because the shot group gets tighter as you shoot...description about Camp G....
Love the map, most of my time is on it.

Fuck.....I'll tell you tomorrow or Wednesday when I get home. It's some variation off of SWATJester . I'm pretty sure it [4EU]P SWATJester but I'll have to double check.
Haha i was in [4EU]3 like 2 or 3 seasons ago w/ Battlewhack.

[Scraps]

BS you should also visit the bf2142/NS thread in the games section of the forums.

[BS87]

So i have to buy that friggen expansion pack to get the L96 or whatever sniper rifle? fuck that 2142 here i come

[Scraps]

So i have to buy that friggen expansion pack to get the L96 or whatever sniper rifle? fuck that 2142 here i come

Buy Northern Strike, unlike the BF2 expansions NS is good.

[BS87]

DO i have to buy 2142 + NS or if i buy NS thats it.. ahh who cares i'll buy it and DL it tonight.

[Scraps]

DO i have to buy 2142 + NS or if i buy NS thats it.. ahh who cares i'll buy it and DL it tonight.

You have to buy bf2142 & NS. NS is like 9.99 but you have to use EA Link.

[SWATJester_os]

Which I'm pissed about cause my EA link is bugged, and I can't download NS.

Oh scraps, I was talking about the m24, which is WAY accurate.

[Scraps]

I realize that now. I don't know how but I got EA Link to dl it :/

[Pltcl Sniper]

Which I'm pissed about cause my EA link is bugged, and I can't download NS.

Oh scraps, I was talking about the m24, which is WAY accurate.

are you getting just a blank EA link screen just a white box with a gray border

[SWATJester_os]

No, my problem is whenever I click "Buy this product" it says "your session has timed out" and returns me to the main page. No matter WHAT I do. Restart everything in the world, clear every cache in history, it doesn't go away.

Oh plus, EA LINK doesn't show all the things I own either...it doesn't even show me as owning BF2142, or BF2 + all the mods.

[Pltcl Sniper]

do you vista or xp

[General Bordinko]

When did this become the BF 2142 Thread?

[Scraps]

When did this become the BF 2142 Thread?

When we started training skills in eve and needed something to do.

[BS87]

Wow, Sniping in 2142 is really hard... infact so far i've got the feeling i just dropped 50 bucks on a game i dont really like.. i'm trying to force myself though. BF2 is more... open i guess, 2142 is mega close in and snipers have no chance.

[Pltcl Sniper]

Wow, Sniping in 2142 is really hard... infact so far i've got the feeling i just dropped 50 bucks on a game i dont really like.. i'm trying to force myself though. BF2 is more... open i guess, 2142 is mega close in and snipers have no chance.

ive never had a problem sniping.... especily when you playing titan, and if you want to snipe play Camp Gribulater

[SWATJester_os]

Sniping's not hard at all. Perhaps you're just on the wrong maps. BF2142 felt wrong the first 4 or 5 times I played it, and then it suddenly just clicked, and everything felt so right...

[Druzil]

so like, hay guyz, how's EVE?

[Scraps]

so like, hay guyz, how's EVE?

Give me 3 weeks to train my cruiser skills kthnx. D:

[FlamingPotato]

Are there any caldari cruisers that are good at pvp...so far it seems that the moa sucks, caracal sucks, blackbird is ewar, and the osprey is a mining cruiser...am i missing anything?

[Captain Colon]

no ur just dum





p.s. eve sux

[Scraps]

no ur just dum





p.s. i sux

fixed

[Captain Colon]

i'm gonna shoot you

[DunNa]

Wow, Sniping in 2142 is really hard... infact so far i've got the feeling i just dropped 50 bucks on a game i dont really like.. i'm trying to force myself though. BF2 is more... open i guess, 2142 is mega close in and snipers have no chance.

I found it rather easy. Sniping on titan maps sucks you may aswell just be afk as far as your teams concerned. Though on city maps (Berlin, Camp G, Tunis, etc) they are effective enough. There are plenty of places to setup and basicly be at max view distance (with view distance set to 99%). There is basicly no drop to speak of until you get to 275/300m ranges which is basicly max view distance in most cases. Also the zoom in/out unlock helps alot. 2 body shots from any sniper rifle is a kill, 1 headshot from any sniper rifle is a kill.

It mainly comes down to knowing the map and where to hide so give it abit on learning the maps and such and stay away from titan mode servers unless you want to do something other than sniping. Though you will most likely fly through the ranks faster on a titan server as they give you alot of points for basicly doing nothing.



As for the the question about caldari cruisers. Moa blows ass, Osprey is a GREAT miner, Blackbird is ewar and its rather good at it to but ewar sucks now, the only real option is a caracal but its rather paper-ish to go solo but works decent as dps support.
Basicly every caldari ship is some form of support either through ewar or long range damage. The race just lacks good pvp ships due to the nature of shield tanking, nosf, missles, ewar, and basicly everything else. The deck is totally stacked aginst you as a solo pvp caldari but your a great support for others and you can farm missions like there is no tommorow :P
If you are really interested in solo pvp cruiser check out a stabber or rupture (minmatar) or possible a dildo or vexor (galante fags) you could even try an arbitor or mauler (amarian). All of those ships can solo decent enough and you have a broad range of flavors to pick from.

[Splitlip]

As far as caldari cruisers go, if you armor tank the caracal its actually really evil. but yeah, caldari cruisers, aside from the BB arent that great for pvp. unless you count remote sheild boosting ospreys.

[BattleWhack]

Step into a Ferox. Blaster ferox's, while unusual, do pretty damn well. I took on a similar aged toon earlier today. He was in a missle ferox. I was in my blaster ferox. I tore him apart, he wcs'd out in hull while I was 30(s) percent shield.

Harpies as well as pretty good at pirating.

But yeah, Caldari solo pirates have a little more to make up for with skill compared to the other races. But it's possible. Just gotta pick and choose your battles and know the capabilities of you and your ship.

[Scraps]

i'm gonna impersonate you

I think this suits you more asshole.

[Captain Colon]

ban me lol.
fixed

[Scraps]

im a flaming faggot lol

fixed.

[vecdran]

Is the Raven still the king of gank pirating?

Or did they nerf precision cruises hard.

[Splitlip]

precision missiles dont wtf pwn everything anymore. they're more on the lvl with t2 gun ammo now.

[PsychoMantis]

Am I a noob for actually liking my Moa because I can make the damn thing survive?

[Scraps]

Am I a noob for actually liking my Moa because I can make the damn thing survive?

Yes.

[PsychoMantis]

Don't make me get my Muninn.

[Scraps]

Don't make me get my Muninn.

Don't make me get the Thorax aka Space Dildo.

[BS87]

they're more on the lvl with t2 gun ammo now.

IE they suck ass

[Captain Colon]

can i plz have a myrmi now or the isk i paid for it plz :(

[PsychoMantis]

Don't make me get the Thorax aka Space Dildo.

My Vagabond then?

[vecdran]

If anything the Apoc is the most dildo-ish of all the ships.

[Discobird]

If anything the Apoc is the most dildo-ish of all the ships.

Nah Geddon

http://www.destabiliser.com/eveships/albums/amarr/battleships/amarrarmageddon.jpg

[vecdran]

Meant the geddon. I first put armageddon, but I put apoc because I couldn't remember which one was which.

[Splitlip]

IE they suck ass

Tremor makes my 100km muninn happy.
Barrage makes my 22KM Vagabond happy :o

I play to make a Quake rape Muninn after talkin got Temu about it the other night :D

[Pltcl Sniper]

how much does Eve cost?

[proudinfidel117]

Nah Geddon

http://www.destabiliser.com/eveships/albums/amarr/battleships/amarrarmageddon.jpg

ramming speed

[Stig]

No way. Nothing beats the Thorax in regards of looking like a penis.

[Pltcl Sniper]

how much does it cost per month fagbags! btw <3 all

[Captain Colon]

too much

[Pltcl Sniper]

and thats supposed to help me how?!

[Captain Colon]

I don't see what's so hard about going to the fucking site and reading the info and finding out that it's $15 a month :\

[Enders]

No way. Nothing beats the Thorax in regards of looking like a penis.

the thorax even has suspicious looking vein type stuff run along the shaft

[Scraps]

the thorax even has suspicious looking vein type stuff run along the shaft

::>

[vecdran]

We aren't saying the geddon looks like a penis, we're saying it's the one that looks the most like a dildo. The thorax is of course the most phallic ship.

[Stig]

I don't understand the difference, they're very similar in regards to shape and function.

[Captain Colon]

dildos carry 0 risk of clingy pregnant woman syndrome

[Dr Boners]

dildos carry 0 risk of clingy pregnant woman syndrome

Unless you coat it in semen.

[BattleWhack]

The Molotov Coalition is about to formed, ladies and gents.

[Scraps]

The Molotov Coalition is about to formed, ladies and gents.

Huzzah!

[PsychoMantis]

0 sec?

IAC ain't treating me right, they won't reset my account on the killboards so I can't access it. Meh, what do I care? I'm only in 0 sec for the ratting and relative safety of an alliance; I can't wait for those new war changes to come through as well, privateer may one day call off their war on IAC.

[BattleWhack]

I didn't know you were in IAC :o

[Scraps]

0 sec?

IAC ain't treating me right, they won't reset my account on the killboards so I can't access it. Meh, what do I care? I'm only in 0 sec for the ratting and relative safety of an alliance; I can't wait for those new war changes to come through as well, privateer may one day call off their war on IAC.

Fuck Privateers.

[Scraps]

Should I sell the Myrmondon for the Brutix?

[Yiggs]

No.

[Captain Colon]

Should I sell the Myrmondon for the Brutix?
DIAF

[Scraps]

DIAF

GFADk

[Scraps]

No.

Care to elaborate

[Captain Colon]

What's there to elaborate about? The myrmidon is way better for pretty much any situation.

[Scraps]

What's there to elaborate about? The myrmidon is way better for pretty much any situation.

I wanted him to elaborate on what makes it so fucking special you dickhead.