My thoughts about 2142 and northern strike...

[Anti-Llama]

The voss....wow....seriously there is nothing more ridiculously unbalanced as that thing.

I dont really like how everything kills you in 2 hits no matter what pretty much.

[PsychoMantis]

I concur with you upon the Voss, and I'll one up this matter and say that I think Northern Strike is seriously unfun and it feels like the game lags more after I downloaded it.

[Anti-Llama]

I concur with you upon the Voss, and I'll one up this matter and say that I think Northern Strike is seriously unfun and it feels like the game lags more after I downloaded it.

the Bridge level is one of the most horribly balanced maps i have ever seen. There is no way the EU can win.

[GrosPoisson]

Edit: Nanowned, kind of.

I've come up with this theory that Northern Strike is simply a way to reward people who buy it with easy point-whoring capabilities via those new ribbons, badges, and pins. Some of them are so ridiculously easy to get. (http://www.totalbf2142.com/page.php?do=nsawards)

[Yiggs]

Yeah, the Voss is so imba. I created a new character and worked up to the voss to try it out, HOLY CRAP. I also hate the AT mines. Lol, let's make mines that fucking trap your vehicle with the fear of moving, that's cool. Hmm, the nekomata, wtf. :( Oh yeah, and the fact that as soon as you start getting shot, don't bother trying to move, you'll be dead before your hitboxes and get fully covered by a wall or something. There was something else I was oging to bitch about, I can't remember what it was..


edit: I remembered it. Why is it that in every map the EU are getting raped? The PAC just seems to be steamrolling right over the EU. :\

[Captain Colon]

wtf did you guys buy 2142 or something

[PsychoMantis]

edit: I remembered it. Why is it that in every map the EU are getting raped? The PAC just seems to be steamrolling right over the EU. :\


The PAC are the aggressors in standard BF2142, the EU and its inferior technology are being pushed back across Europe and into Africa.

Northern Strike is the opposite because now EU has that gay as hell Goliath tank which wtfpwns whatever comes its way... unless I get to it with det packs.It still feels like the new maps lag something fierce, maybe its just me.

[DunNa]

The Voss really isn't THAT bad, its spray friendly but really what else is a medic/assulter going to use? Its either that or the baur (possibly the krylov). Its not as though 2142 has this huge selection of assault rifles to pick from. So what exactly is it imbalanced aginst?

I think most people dislike it because its used the most, but I think thats saying something more about the assault class which in itself is stupidly good. Healing, res teammates, assault rockets, and a good main gun. Really its ownly weakness is armor/something other than infantry and those are semi rare now or atleast avoidable.

All that said the Baur is all around better unless you're attempting to spray down a room full of dudes. Better damage, range, deviation, and more mags (even if smaller) which I personally like since I'm a reload whore. It actually takes alittle "skill" to use it but its overall better.

[Scraps]

Having unlocked the Baur I have to say it sucks ass. The engy shotgun on the otherhand.....

[Anti-Llama]

The Voss really isn't THAT bad, its spray friendly but really what else is a medic/assulter going to use? Its either that or the baur (possibly the krylov). Its not as though 2142 has this huge selection of assault rifles to pick from. So what exactly is it imbalanced aginst?

I think most people dislike it because its used the most, but I think thats saying something more about the assault class which in itself is stupidly good. Healing, res teammates, assault rockets, and a good main gun. Really its ownly weakness is armor/something other than infantry and those are semi rare now or atleast avoidable.

All that said the Baur is all around better unless you're attempting to spray down a room full of dudes. Better damage, range, deviation, and more mags (even if smaller) which I personally like since I'm a reload whore. It actually takes alittle "skill" to use it but its overall better.

No, the voss IS really that bad. 40 bullets as opposed to the baurs 20, ridiculously good accuracy even at long range (its supposed to be a close quarters gun :rolleyes: ) and good damage, although damage i guess doesnt matter since everything in this game kills you in 2 hits literally.


Knifing is all but impossible it seems. I have crouched RIGHT ONTOP of a prone person before and knifed him 5 times before he noticed and just looked up and shot me. I got the baur and right now i am regretting it so much. I am doing alot worse in this game then in BF2 because no matter where you are in 2142, you are visible at all times because of those gay ass netbat helmets. Camo is completely useless, i have never seen anyone use it, and when i try to use it if the enemy just have one support class with the netbat upgrade, pretty much everyone on the map can see you so its pointless.

[Onyx]

No, the voss IS really that bad. 40 bullets as opposed to the baurs 20, ridiculously good accuracy even at long range (its supposed to be a close quarters gun :rolleyes: ) and good damage, although damage i guess doesnt matter since everything in this game kills you in 2 hits literally.I actually prefer the Baur over the Voss. The Voss is godly at Titan mode because most of it is CQC, but put a Voss vs. a Baur at long range (Assuming users are equally skilled) shooting at each other, and I gurantee you 9/10 times the Baur wins. The gun is just godly and medium to long range and plus it can tear people to shreads in CQC. I barely lose when I go up against people that have the Voss, the gun is too weak to be used effectively.


Knifing is all but impossible it seems. I have crouched RIGHT ONTOP of a prone person before and knifed him 5 times before he noticed and just looked up and shot me.You have no idea how many times that's happen to me also. It gets me BEYOND pissed.

I got the baur and right now i am regretting it so much. I am doing alot worse in this game then in BF2 because no matter where you are in 2142, you are visible at all times because of those gay ass netbat helmets.You also have to make the transition from BF2, to BF2142. The game is a lot more team oreinted and balanced because of the NetBat and guns being weaker than in BF2. Give it time, you'll be there soon enough.

Camo is completely useless, i have never seen anyone use it, and when i try to use it if the enemy just have one support class with the netbat upgrade, pretty much everyone on the map can see you so its pointless.They're pointless because people use them wrong. You CANNOT use them like you see in action movies (i.e. Predator) or any other game (Meaning you can be standing right infront of an enemy and they won't notice you.). They're used for the more wide open areas of the game.

[DunNa]

I actually prefer the Baur over the Voss. The Voss is godly at Titan mode because most of it is CQC, but put a Voss vs. a Baur at long range (Assuming users are equally skilled) shooting at each other, and I gurantee you 9/10 times the Baur wins. The gun is just godly and medium to long range and plus it can tear people to shreads in CQC. I barely lose when I go up against people that have the Voss, the gun is too weak to be used effectively.

Yup thats about how I see it aswell. I think most people just hate the Voss/see it as OP because they get killed by it alot and its a commonly used gun. Though it could also be the fact you can be a spray nub with it and do "ok".

As for knifing, I'll tell you the sekrat. AIM FOR THE LEGS!

I am not joking or anything, just go up behind some guy and prone and slash the legs. Not the chest, head, or arms, but his likes. You will almost always get the first hit if you prone sometimes it needs afew swings if your crouched.

Also Onyx is right about the camo thing. Its ment to avoid, not to be "zomg neenjah!" or something like that. Take the long/wide way around the fighting and use the camo to help get through the open areas. Aslong as you keep a good distance from the people you are basicly invisible but up close they can sorta see you AND there is that buzzing sound thats rather distinctive.

am doing alot worse in this game then in BF2

Thats because of two things. The first is that you suck and that you are only looking for problems and not solutions or how to work with what you have. If you have the Baur you have the assault rockets which means your set. Those rockets = domination vs anything trying to camp. Snipers MGs etc just up and die once you figure out how to use those rockets well and air burst them. Hell just airbursting them into crowded spawn areas is awesome. The Baur is a better gun in all respects to the Voss with the exception of mag capacity and a rof, the mag capacity is a non-issue for me since I normally take 1-2 people down and reload. It takes better aiming and you actually need to burst with the baur but its a much better rifle. The second reason is that you suck, and theres just no helping that :(

Again the camo is not something to use all the time, its not something to turn you into a cyber ninja or a rogue from some MMO. Sure there are occasions where it can be used in that respect but for the most part in those cases you probably would have been fine without the camo anyhow. Your best bet with Recon is to go APM, RDX, Lambert for the more spec ops style setup. Though for sniping it should be stabilizer, apm, default sniper... possibly switch out the apm for rdx if you prefer.

The netbat system only works on things you spot. So if some person with a support soilder spots you as while camo'd, yes you'll be that lovely red diamond to his squad and pop up on the mini map for other people. Though for him to do that he actually needs to spot you, which means something was wrong on your end to begin with.

[Scraps]

OK so my next unlock is an RDX Laucher! Fucking AWESOME!

[DunNa]

OK so my next unlock is an RDX Laucher! Fucking AWESOME!

It sucks :(
It takes like 3 almost direct blasts to get kill, it does no noticable damage to armor or consoles/titan shit. Its fuse is pretty long and the blast radius is small not to mention the nades it shoots are basicly orange fucking flares that stick to walls. Its a cool weapon no doubt specially combined with the fact it basicly has infinite ammo due to being on the support class but unless your just endlessly spamming a door way or spawn point you have better options and in both those cases the basic frags would probably be better since they can 1hit kill.

As support your best off with the sentry turret + infantry sonar (either the hand held one or the deployable one). Then either use the clark or one of the default LMGs (the shuko rocks)

[PsychoMantis]

As for knifing, you don't even have to aim for the legs, just be a meter away and swing. Being on top of the opponent will NEVER work, only use the knife at a bit of range (yes it's fucking retarded).

[Enders]

voss = FAMAS?

[GrosPoisson]

OK so my next unlock is an RDX Laucher! Fucking AWESOME!

Like DunNa said, do NOT get that POS. The damage is laughably small, which makes sense considering it's an amount of RDX small enough to be launched from a large shotgun. You also have to deal with the RDX flying in an arc, which makes long-range use of the Clark 12B almost impossible.

I'm still loving Titan mode, specifically Suez Canal. I just got 1165 points last night because of multiple badge and pin awards. I went from Chief Petty Officer Silver to Warrant Officer Silver in about two hours. Titan mode is also very conducive to jihad jeeps, as there's always armor roaming the map and there's plenty of FAVs.

I think EA really fucked up by not having a badge or pin for destroying the commander's assets. They're always going on and on about how they encourage teamplay, but they neglect to provide a badge to reward people for doing something that's absolutely critical in the game and in real war, blowing up strategic assets. So much for that vaunted teamplay they keep pushing.

[Yiggs]

Yeah, I almost never blow up the commanders equip since it gives me so few points for risking my ass for it. The easiest points are at the beginning, run over the the enemy titan and use their base AA to take out the guns, which'll give you a pin that gives you 20 points. Whore the silos, easy points quick.

On the topic of the Voss, I prefer it over the Baur, the recoil on the voss is so fucking small it's nuts, I can outsnipe snipers with it since the reaiming time on it is so quick. Baur isn't too bad at long range, but the recoil is a real downside.

[PsychoMantis]

Like DunNa said, do NOT get that POS. The damage is laughably small, which makes sense considering it's an amount of RDX small enough to be launched from a large shotgun. You also have to deal with the RDX flying in an arc, which makes long-range use of the Clark 12B almost impossible.

I'm still loving Titan mode, specifically Suez Canal. I just got 1165 points last night because of multiple badge and pin awards. I went from Chief Petty Officer Silver to Warrant Officer Silver in about two hours. Titan mode is also very conducive to jihad jeeps, as there's always armor roaming the map and there's plenty of FAVs.

I think EA really fucked up by not having a badge or pin for destroying the commander's assets. They're always going on and on about how they encourage teamplay, but they neglect to provide a badge to reward people for doing something that's absolutely critical in the game and in real war, blowing up strategic assets. So much for that vaunted teamplay they keep pushing.

I should get a badge for killing people within 5 seconds of their spawn time as well...
I'm an asshole.

[Scraps]

So i forked up the $10 for NS and I have to say those maps are great. The "Tank Monster" is so fun to use and abuse. IT HAS A SHOTGUN/MINE LAUCHER!

[Anti-Llama]

Thats because of two things. The first is that you suck and that you are only looking for problems and not solutions or how to work with what you have. If you have the Baur you have the assault rockets which means your set. Those rockets = domination vs anything trying to camp. Snipers MGs etc just up and die once you figure out how to use those rockets well and air burst them. Hell just airbursting them into crowded spawn areas is awesome. The Baur is a better gun in all respects to the Voss with the exception of mag capacity and a rof, the mag capacity is a non-issue for me since I normally take 1-2 people down and reload. It takes better aiming and you actually need to burst with the baur but its a much better rifle. The second reason is that you suck, and theres just no helping that :(

just because im naming problems doesnt mean im not doing anything about it, sorry im not posting everything that goes on in my head. I may suck now, because i just bought the game, and in terms of aiming and weapon damage, is completely different than BF2, so fucking sue me.

[Scraps]

How2airburst?

[DunNa]

How2airburst?

When you "scope" with the rockets the range reading is actually at what distance the rocket will explode (if they don't hit something before that). So just looking at a wall 50 meters away and scoping will set your rockets to explode at 50 meters. You can then use your mouse wheel to adjust that range (scroll up for more range, down for less). Unscoping will ditch the range and they will go back to explode on impact only. There is also no range memory so once you unscope you will need to reset the range again.

As for how to airburst in combat and what not. Its mainly used to pwn people behind walls/cover. First you would aim and scope at the wall/object they are behind then just add a meter or two to the range and aim above or to the side depending and fire 2-3 rockets. Generally if you set it up right 2 will be all thats needed. I normally just fire all 3 since only having one in the clip is pretty worthless most of the time :(

The rockets themselves have a slight drop past about 65-70 meters and that will needed to be compensated for if your shooting at/past that range. Though if you use the rockets alot you can get down right surgical with those things and there is basicly no real way to avoid them. You run from your cover the assault guy switchs to his gun and shoots your ass off, you stay put you get vaporised with rockets.

[BlindSite]

Dun Haven't you learned to slam rockets yet?

[DunNa]

Dun Haven't you learned to slam rockets yet?

Slam rockets?

I mainly play recon myself and usually just play medic abit on berlin/gibralter. I have no clue what you are talking about though :(

[BlindSite]

Slamming is the term for firing a rocket and whipping it down into a crater or behind a wall, its a bit difficult to effectively get kills at first but once you get the hang of it you can whip rockets into the vents and stuff of walkers and behind walls.

[GrosPoisson]

Ha, good times with the engineering kit. I sometimes do that on Fall of Berlin to APCs, they seem to have a hard time figuring out where it's coming from when I land the rocket on the top of the APC.

[DunNa]

Slamming is the term for firing a rocket and whipping it down into a crater or behind a wall, its a bit difficult to effectively get kills at first but once you get the hang of it you can whip rockets into the vents and stuff of walkers and behind walls.

Your talking about AT rockets? I normally use the pilum because I find it over all better since you can keep on the move while using it.

I was talking about the assault rockets, the ones for the assault kit under the baur tree.

[Scraps]

Anyone unlock the HMG? Im contemplating going up that tree.

[DunNa]

The ganz is ok its more of a playstyle choice than anything. If you like camping and hanging back/being stationary and putting down fire then you'd probably like the Ganz. If your more of the run and gun random MG type person the defaults are alot better choices to use.

I would say no matter what get the sentry turret atleast and you can field upgrade to the ganz if you really want to use it abit. That turret is great no matter what you are doing, or what map you are on (though on titan defence its insane).

[Splitlip]

I was on some clans conquest server the other night, and they were all using sentries, the volume of fire was rediculous :/

[Scraps]

The ganz is ok its more of a playstyle choice than anything. If you like camping and hanging back/being stationary and putting down fire then you'd probably like the Ganz. If your more of the run and gun random MG type person the defaults are alot better choices to use.

I would say no matter what get the sentry turret atleast and you can field upgrade to the ganz if you really want to use it abit. That turret is great no matter what you are doing, or what map you are on (though on titan defence its insane).

So is this a valid conclusion? Ganz is to M60 as Shucko/Bianchi is to M249SAW?

[PsychoMantis]

Anyone unlock the HMG? Im contemplating going up that tree.

As Dunna said, it's a playstyle choice. But... if you like Support and you have NS, the ganz is a must if you want that lovely Infantry Sonar device. Only reason I have the ganz right now.

[Anti-Llama]

The lambert carbine is pretty sweet

[Scraps]

Infantry sonar ahoy!

[DunNa]

The lambert carbine is pretty sweet

Yes it is :D

The only downside is that you really can't go toe to toe with other rifles. Though its lack of deviation is so sexy I can forgive it :)

[GrosPoisson]

Yes it is :D

The only downside is that you really can't go toe to toe with other rifles. Though its lack of deviation is so sexy I can forgive it :)

How do you use it? So far the best method I've found is to rapidly pulse two or three-round bursts as fast as possible, and compensate for the small recoil.

[Splitlip]

How do you use it? So far the best method I've found is to rapidly pulse two or three-round bursts as fast as possible, and compensate for the small recoil.

Most of the time I burst snipe with it like that. pretty effective. Working on my Pilum now though, I miss it from beta too much.

[GrosPoisson]

Oh, I forgot to ask: does using the stabilizer with the Lambert help at all? I've tried putting it on and activating it by holding shift, but it doesn't seem to do anything for the accuracy and just eliminates the extremely slight scope bob.

[Scraps]

So I just found out that i can stick the RDX-12's projectiles to people!

[DunNa]

it doesn't seem to do anything for the accuracy and just eliminates the extremely slight scope bob.

Thats all the stabalizer does as far as I know. Some people say it really with the lambert personally I just grab rdx/apms and go.

[Splitlip]

yeah, RDX and claymores all the way. Remember how in BF2 you could get jeep/fav/hummer/whatever kills by hiding clays along the road? I havent had any luck doing that in BF2142. Anyone else?

[GrosPoisson]

yeah, RDX and claymores all the way. Remember how in BF2 you could get jeep/fav/hummer/whatever kills by hiding clays along the road? I havent had any luck doing that in BF2142. Anyone else?

Nope. That was one of the first things I tried to do as well. I also tried to put APMs on the hood like I used to put claymores on the FAVs and Humvees, but they just bounce off and land on the ground.

I'm really starting to get pissed off at Recon class players on servers with FF off. There's always one or two jerks running around at full speed tossing RDX packs everywhere and detonating them. It's like the old days of BF2 when people thought it was super-leet to bunny hop and use C4 as a close quarters weapon. >:/

[BlindSite]

Yeah, I get pissed off with those assholes, but I'm beginning to loathe the Voss LR. In mid distance combat the default AR should rule. I'm a good shot, and I'll always die trading volley's with someone who's got a Voss, its just bullshit.

Lock Trees imo you should go for is the Assault, I just got both trees as fast as possible but not the ARs, so I can get field upgrades and use them. Then I work on the Support, so I've got the SG later I'm gonna try and get my way up to the Heavy Artillery rifle.

[Scraps]

The Voss isnt even that good. Stop bitching about it.

[Anti-Llama]

The Voss isnt even that good. Stop bitching about it.

I dont think were playing the same game.

[DunNa]

I dont think were playing the same game.

We are... Which is sorta sad to be honest (on your part) cause the Voss isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Its simply used alot.

[BlindSite]

Well when you're playing on a server where 8 of 14 people are using it against your team. It starts to piss you off. It is as bad as people make it out to be, yeah you can beat people using it, but they've got an unfair advantage.

[Scraps]

Well when you're playing on a server where 8 of 14 people are using it against your team. It starts to piss you off. It is as bad as people make it out to be, yeah you can beat people using it, but they've got an unfair advantage.

Haha unfair advantage....

[Splitlip]

I hate how RDX packs dont seem to stick to mechs well. 2 mech kills down the shitter last night because the packs seemed to skip off instead of adhere :/

[GrosPoisson]

We are... Which is sorta sad to be honest (on your part) cause the Voss isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Its simply used alot.

I agree, but I still get more kills with the Voss than with any other weapon, and about half the time I do I always think "There's just no damn way I should've gotten that kill."

If anything has an unfair advantage over another weapon, I'd have to say it's all the other assault class rifles over the SCAR 11. That thing is a piece of crap, and I cannot use it for the life of me. It's all "HAY GUYZ DO YOU LIKE MY CRAZY HALF A PILL SHAPED SCOPE AND ENORMOUS CROSSHAIR THAT BLOCKS YOUR VIEW ITS COOL RITE?!" I used to hate playing assault on EU because I'd be stuck using that while the PAC guys had Krylov and Voss rifles to play with. :(

[BlindSite]

I agree, but I still get more kills with the Voss than with any other weapon, and about half the time I do I always think "There's just no damn way I should've gotten that kill."

If anything has an unfair advantage over another weapon, I'd have to say it's all the other assault class rifles over the SCAR 11. That thing is a piece of crap, and I cannot use it for the life of me. It's all "HAY GUYZ DO YOU LIKE MY CRAZY HALF A PILL SHAPED SCOPE AND ENORMOUS CROSSHAIR THAT BLOCKS YOUR VIEW ITS COOL RITE?!" I used to hate playing assault on EU because I'd be stuck using that while the PAC guys had Krylov and Voss rifles to play with. :(

I like the scar and hate the krylov :(

I really do love the shotgun in close quarters, the sticky grenades things, wtf, do they hurt vehicles or not, cause i emptied some of those onto a tank and it survived.

Oh and GG EA, I wanted to buy NS so I could get the two shitty badges for 2 unlock credits and boost my way up to getting the anti matter rifle... No dice. EA Link won't work for me.

[DunNa]

I really do love the shotgun in close quarters, the sticky grenades things, wtf, do they hurt vehicles or not, cause i emptied some of those onto a tank and it survived.

The RDX gun sucks... To answer your question it does damage to armor and similar like a normal hand nade. Aka it does jack all to tanks/apcs. hurts walkers only if it hits the vents, damages jeeps, It does pathetic damage to turrets. It also has a very small blast radius and a decently long delay.

The only real use I found for it was titan defence and just endlessly spamming the doorway with the nades. I also had my sentry turret out and the combination of the two basicly let me hold the last corridor solo if I had to. Outside of that its pretty worthless and your better served with sentry turret/sonar of some kind (either the hand held one or the deployable sonar).

[Scraps]

I like the scar and hate the krylov :(

I really do love the shotgun in close quarters, the sticky grenades things, wtf, do they hurt vehicles or not, cause i emptied some of those onto a tank and it survived.

Oh and GG EA, I wanted to buy NS so I could get the two shitty badges for 2 unlock credits and boost my way up to getting the anti matter rifle... No dice. EA Link won't work for me.

I know how you feel dude just bear with it and try to do it through EA SHIT.

[Anti-Llama]

We are... Which is sorta sad to be honest (on your part) cause the Voss isn't as bad as people make it out to be. Its simply used alot.

and why do you think its used alot? Its not really about the fact that the voss is really good, its more along the lines of how completely shitty the H-Baur is. The default assault rifles are better than it by alot. And IMO you are kind of downplaying the voss just because people are saying its unbalanced. It really is. 40 bullets as opposed to the Baurs 20, extremely good accuracy even at long range, damage that is almost equal to the Baur. So i hope you will excuse me if i dont believe you when you say it isnt as bad as people make it out to be.

[BlindSite]

The Baur is a good rifle, you've just got to know how to use it. Its more of a support weapon than it is assault. You should use it at long range, it'll beat almost anything.

[Splitlip]

....except the Voss. Even at range its good.

[BlindSite]

I've heard of people creating multiple soldiers so they can get exp really quickly at the lower levels and just get to one weapon. So you have a Voss player, a Baur Player and all the rest of it and then one multi class player.

[Yiggs]

I can now unlock the Voss with a field upgrade. Holy crap. I went something like 20 and 8. and that was pretty muchr amboing. The voss is nuts compared to the baur.

[GrosPoisson]

....except the Voss. Even at range its good.

I'd say it depends on the user. I've managed to pick off a lot of Voss users at long range because of their need to get something like 5 or 6 shots in before getting a kill, while the Baur only needs 3 or 4. This could also have something to do with them being spray and pray smacktards who weren't as patient as I was in carefully aiming and getting single shots in on them.

[Pltcl Sniper]

I like the scar and hate the krylov :(

I really do love the shotgun in close quarters, the sticky grenades things, wtf, do they hurt vehicles or not, cause i emptied some of those onto a tank and it survived.

Oh and GG EA, I wanted to buy NS so I could get the two shitty badges for 2 unlock credits and boost my way up to getting the anti matter rifle... No dice. EA Link won't work for me.

wait we get 2 unlock credits i only got one :-( i used that on the lambert (bad ass weapon) oh and the Krylov=win better for CQB with the shotgun attachment and the baur for AR

[Onyx]

Well when you're playing on a server where 8 of 14 people are using it against your team. It starts to piss you off. It is as bad as people make it out to be, yeah you can beat people using it, but they've got an unfair advantage.

I dont think were playing the same game.

Yeah, I get pissed off with those assholes, but I'm beginning to loathe the Voss LR. In mid distance combat the default AR should rule. I'm a good shot, and I'll always die trading volley's with someone who's got a Voss, its just bullshit.

Lock Trees imo you should go for is the Assault, I just got both trees as fast as possible but not the ARs, so I can get field upgrades and use them. Then I work on the Support, so I've got the SG later I'm gonna try and get my way up to the Heavy Artillery rifle.

I'm gonna give you guys an acronym I learned over at www.gotfrag.com

KTE (Or in this case KTFE)

Keep The (Fucking) Excuses.


Pathetic. I bet you money if you faced a team that just used the Baur you would be complaining your ass off. "ZOMG IT'S SOOOOOO PWRFUL!!!!" I notice how you guys were carry with the same attitude to every shooter you play. Especially you BlindSite, who would literally cuss me out when I used a FAMAS in FA :rolleyes:.

[HarryB]

Especially you BlindSite, who would literally cuss me out when I used a FAMAS in FA :rolleyes:.

Well we all know that the bullet hose is for the socially shunned.

[BlindSite]

I didn't cuss you out, I just asked you after for the 5th round in a row, why you never changed off the whore weapon. Since I was getting the same K:D Ratio with AK47 as M16 as G3a3 as the MP5.

You were talking shit back to me all I did was point out you couldn't keep up the same pace with different weapons. You didn't prove me wrong...

[Scraps]

G3>Famas

[Onyx]

I didn't cuss you out, I just asked you after for the 5th round in a row, why you never changed off the whore weapon. Since I was getting the same K:D Ratio with AK47 as M16 as G3a3 as the MP5.

You were talking shit back to me all I did was point out you couldn't keep up the same pace with different weapons. You didn't prove me wrong...Because I have nothing to prove to you, especially in a pub where people are below my skill level (On average by the way. This is coming from a clanner and comparing myself to someone who plays a casual game in a pub). Once the map changed though, and I was using a G36, you had already left (I ripped that server apart by the way :)). The only reason I would use it in pubs was because I was the go-to guy in clan matches for the FAMAS. Half the people on this forum have been on teams with me. And can say I for damn sure they can say I was just as effective with a FAMAS as I was with any other assault rifle.

[Scraps]

Because I have nothing to prove to you, especially in a pub where people are below my skill level (On average by the way. This is coming from a clanner and comparing myself to someone who plays a casual game in a pub). Once the map changed though, and I was using a G36, you had already left (I ripped that server apart by the way :)). The only reason I would use it in pubs was because I was the go-to guy in clan matches for the FAMAS. Half the people on this forum have been on teams with me. And can say I for damn sure they can say I was just as effective with a FAMAS as I was with any other assault rifle.

HK all the way?

[Anti-Llama]

I'm gonna give you guys an acronym I learned over at www.gotfrag.com

KTE (Or in this case KTFE)

Keep The (Fucking) Excuses.


Pathetic. I bet you money if you faced a team that just used the Baur you would be complaining your ass off. "ZOMG IT'S SOOOOOO PWRFUL!!!!" I notice how you guys were carry with the same attitude to every shooter you play. Especially you BlindSite, who would literally cuss me out when I used a FAMAS in FA :rolleyes:.

Not really considering how god awful the Baur is i would probably say something along the lines of "man i feel sorry for them".

[Yiggs]

I don't mind the baur for longer range engagements where I don't have to snipe with it. It's fairly powerful, but the Voss is just crazy in close quarters. Thoughts on the shotgun? I'm torking towards teh clark.

[Anti-Llama]

I don't mind the baur for longer range engagements where I don't have to snipe with it. It's fairly powerful, but the Voss is just crazy in close quarters. Thoughts on the shotgun? I'm torking towards teh clark.

If you can get within range to use the clark, they are already dead. The shotgun is insane at CQC and it absolutely rapes in titan.

[Onyx]

HK all the way?HK 4 lyfe!!!

Not really considering how god awful I am with the Baur is i would probably say something along the lines of "man i feel sorry for them".Fixed. Anti, I gurantee you if I picked up a Baur and you had a Voss, I would be whoopin' your ass up all across the server.

[Anti-Llama]

HK 4 lyfe!!!

Fixed. Anti, I gurantee you if I picked up a Baur and you had a Voss, I would be whoopin' your ass up all across the server.

Im actually not that bad with the baur, on single shot its pretty accurate at long range, but yeah my dad can beat up your dad, etc. :rolleyes:

[GrosPoisson]

I don't mind the baur for longer range engagements where I don't have to snipe with it. It's fairly powerful, but the Voss is just crazy in close quarters. Thoughts on the shotgun? I'm torking towards teh clark.

The Voss is good at close quarters, but the Baur doesn't lose out either. Remember that round for round the Baur does more damage, and can keep up with the Voss. I haven't had any trouble getting two and on rare occasions three kills in one mag in those "OH SHIT CHARLIE IN THE TREES EVERYWHERE" situations where there's no need to sight in. I use the Baur like I use the G3 in BF2, and it hasn't let me down yet.

The Clark shotgun is death incarnate, and a must-have for raiding the Titan. Pair it up with the pulse meter and some EMP grenades and you've got a great CQB loadout.

[Yiggs]

Just made a character and unlocked the Clark. OMG YES. granted it's a gamble getting up close enoughto kill the enemy, and against the voss, your crappy hit detection you'll probably die, but despite that, it is awesome. one hit kills ftw. I use that in conjunction with the detector and EMP grenades to be annoying. AND THEY DIDN'T FUCK THE SHOTGUN UP THE FIRST TIME AROUND!! It's actually accurate out to a certain distance that most game's shotguns would never be able to hit at.

[Onyx]

Im actually not that bad with the baur, on single shot its pretty accurate at long range, but yeah my dad can beat up your dad, etc. :rolleyes:Now, now, don't be mad because I speak the truth :D.

[Yiggs]

Hey guys, how about we find an empty server and sort this out? How about tonight?????

[HarryB]

I think Onyx just circumcised himself from stroking his e-penis so hard.

[Onyx]

I think Onyx just circumcised himself from stroking his e-penis so hard.I'm sorry, but I show no mercy to anyone who complains about a gun in a FPS. Honestly, it's part of the game. Kinda like in FA, how helmet camming would be so horrible sometimes on certain maps. It beyond pissed me off, but its something you have to look through if you're gonna have fun.



Plus people like this make games not fun because they're too busy bitching about simple gameplay mechanics instead of just playing. Just take a chill pill, let it out, and keep playing.

You can say I'm stroking my "e-penis", but then again, I come from competitive gaming so I'm gonna call you out on the bullshit you people spew sometimes :lincoln:.

[Yiggs]

Yeah, fuck balance, let's have fun.

[DunNa]

Yeah, fuck balance, let's have fun.

If anything it is balanced... Baur = range, Voss = close up

Both of them are more than capable of doing well at both range and close up. If you're playing alot of titan "ranged" combat doesn't exist its simply silo insanity, and titan gang rapes all of which take place at about 20m or less. So I wonder why the most commonly used gun for such a map type would be the Voss?

Unbalanced is such a stupid idea when your looking at gun balance in an FPS (in reference to guns available to everyone). Balance between classes like between assault and engie are good things to complain about, if you can make a decent arguement one way or the other.

There are plenty of people out there including myself who do just fine if not better than most Voss'ers with other weapons and classes.

[Yiggs]

too bad the voss has so little recoil, it's like famas vs g3, sure the g3 is good at range, but the famas can get of consecutive shots faster more accurately whereas the baur, while accurate, has enough recoil it makes it harder. pretty much all ARs are way accurate on SS, so that doesn't matter.

[DunNa]

too bad the voss has so little recoil, it's like famas vs g3, sure the g3 is good at range, but the famas can get of consecutive shots faster more accurately whereas the baur, while accurate, has enough recoil it makes it harder. pretty much all ARs are way accurate on SS, so that doesn't matter.

As far as I know SS doesn't effect accuracy simply ease of control (gasp). If you learn to work with the Baurs recoil and comp for it, its inherently better. It has a much tighter cone and a slower deviation (the vosses deviation literally asplodes).

The entire thing comes back to it, the Baur takes skill but with the skill its is BETTER than the Voss. There is no way around it, no matter what a skilled baur will wtf pwn a skilled Voss. A baur can dominate at any range, has the fastest TTK (time to kill) of ANY automatic rifle.

If the voss was so godly the "leet clanners" (FA term for you but basicly good players) would use it over the baur, but this isn't the case. The people who know what they are doing and can aim well and comp for recoil use the baur. The people who can't say it sucks and use the voss. I don't think any less of the person for not being able to do that I mean I will say they arn't a great player but they are still dandy people.

I mean its just straight up facts with no real way around it. I could scream this in your ear till I'm blue in the face and you just wouldn't get it. This is almost to the point of willful ignorance or something.

[Onyx]

Yeah, fuck balance, let's have fun.I agree, but don't twist around my words. Granted, you want balance in a FPS, but it's almost impossible to achieve because you either get watered down gameplay, or you get that one person that STILL complains. In most cases, unless a gun is HORRIBLE unbalanced (I.e. The M82 from FA 3.0), I can see complaining. In this case though, it's just people crying because they've been killed by it a wee bit too much :panda::panda:.

[Yiggs]

In that case, the LMGs are broken. I can get a higher K:D ratio with those lmgs than any other weapon. Gotta love how it gets more accurate as it shoots! :D

[DunNa]

In that case, the LMGs are broken. I can get a higher K:D ratio with those lmgs than any other weapon. Gotta love how it gets more accurate as it shoots! :D

One weapon type has to get the best general K: D why not the MGs?

Personnally I can go like 30:2-3 without issues sniping a on a full conquest server, at worst getting a 3:1 or 5:1 depending on how full it is.

[Yiggs]

I like the baur and the voss. I use the Baur until I field unlock the Voss, then I rip it up. at emdium range I don't have a problem with the baur, but I rape with the voss. Gibraltar with a clark/voss and you are god. Up close, the voss little inaccuracy doesn't matter, the enemy is dead is .5 seconds.


Gotta love going assault on gibraltar, so many revives it's unreal. I especially like it when a guy is prone next to a corner and gets shot and I (hiding around the corner) lean over and revives him, only to have him die a second later, only to be revived a immediatly, et cetera. :3

[GrosPoisson]

In that case, the LMGs are broken. I can get a higher K:D ratio with those lmgs than any other weapon. Gotta love how it gets more accurate as it shoots! :D

It's weird, I admit, but I like it because it makes LMGs the killing machines they should be. One of the things I enjoy most about BF2142 is that I can actually lay down effective suppressing fire instead of just shooting tracers over the enemy and hit them maybe once out of every 15 rounds.

In BF2142, the game actually gives me the chance to be the guy with the superior field of fire yelling "GET SOME GET SOME GET SOME WHOOOOOOOOO" instead of in BF2 where it was more like "GET SOME GET... PLEASE? HOW ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT? NO? OW MY FACE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO GET BULLETS IN IT!"

[Yiggs]

It's weird, I admit, but I like it because it makes LMGs the killing machines they should be. One of the things I enjoy most about BF2142 is that I can actually lay down effective suppressing fire instead of just shooting tracers over the enemy and hit them maybe once out of every 15 rounds.

In BF2142, the game actually gives me the chance to be the guy with the superior field of fire yelling "GET SOME GET SOME GET SOME WHOOOOOOOOO" instead of in BF2 where it was more like "GET SOME GET... PLEASE? HOW ABOUT JUST A LITTLE BIT? NO? OW MY FACE I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO GET BULLETS IN IT!"

totally, but I keep seeing people ramboing with it, that's not supposed to happen. :(

[HarryB]

I'm sorry, but I show no mercy to anyone who complains about a gun in a FPS. Honestly, it's part of the game. Kinda like in FA, how helmet camming would be so horrible sometimes on certain maps. It beyond pissed me off, but its something you have to look through if you're gonna have fun.

That's different. That's a bug in a game that was exploited. It's people who milk kills from the easier weapons to show their "skills" (which is retarded in and of itself) that ruined FA. Honestly, no one wants to play with a dickhead who is 30-2 and hasn't even made an attempt to use another gun. I don't care if YOU'RE having fun. If you're the only one on the map who is, something is wrong. The FAMAS, MP5, and AK47 up to about 3.0 were brutally accurate at any range at any setting which made them frustrating if you were being mauled at one of FAs many chokepoints. A game should be challenging not frustrating.


Plus people like this make games not fun because they're too busy bitching about simple gameplay mechanics instead of just playing. Just take a chill pill, let it out, and keep playing.

Read the last line above.

Now BF2 and 2142 had a good idea with the metals. Since people are inherently idiotic and will make any and all attempts to look the best at all obscure shit out there regardless of whether or not anyone cares (ranking systems in games make my laugh), creating metals for completing tasks and using all weapons in the game instead of using only a handful of them, makes the game better. It promotes substitution and change and not stagnant e-penis matches that drives away players with other people's constant egotism and arrogance.


You can say I'm stroking my "e-penis", but then again, I come from competitive gaming so I'm gonna call you out on the bullshit you people spew sometimes :lincoln:.

Of course you will. You're one of the asses that sees nothing wrong with parking yourself in the bunker on coldwar with 3 other guys with SVDs milking hks instead of moving ahead, because you can. The type of guys that immediately checks their stats at every 2 minute mark to make sure they're still ahead. The type of people that drive casual people away with their caustic attitude, because they feel that being nothing but the best IN A VIDEO GAME, is the highest achievement for a person.

If they added a system where people could only milk weapons for a set period of time, in which case they're required to pick something else (there were over 7 rifles ffs, there's no reason you can't take something else for a bit) would have probably turned FA into less of a e-penis cockslapping match for the elite, and more into a multiplayer game for multiple types players.

[BlindSite]

The reason why the Voss pisses me off is because the game is supposed to be about team and squad based combat, you're meant to play with people against another force and work toward common goals.

Hell some days I'll die about 6 times in a row in one place because I'm reviving people and throwing med bags instead of shooting. Its team work. The Assaulters need the engineers because they can't take out vehicles. The Engies need them because they can't capture stuff as effectively. Both need the snipers who can fight long range and everyone needs the Machine Gunners and Shot Gunners because there's times when you need someone to lay down some fire so you can move to other cover areas.

Fact is the game is built around needing other classes and people in order to be successful. The Voss has 40 rounds, hits exceptionally hard, exceptionally accurately at an exceptional rate. Its capable of taking down all but experienced snipers, is awesome in close range, can assault and because of its cyclic rate, accuracy and range can take the place of some support roles.

Its bullshit because it detracts from the game. I can use the weapon, I do use the weapon and I do well with the weapon. It isn't supposed to ruin the game by taking the place of other classes or roles.

[Scraps]

Gotta love going assault on gibraltar, so many revives it's unreal. I especially like it when a guy is prone next to a corner and gets shot and I (hiding around the corner) lean over and revives him, only to have him die a second later, only to be revived a immediatly, et cetera. :3

People like you are fucking assholes.

[Yiggs]

People like you are fucking assholes.

Fine, I'll just let you lie and scream medi while I go help someone else. Better to have the slim chance of being able to get away than none at all. I guess my only beef with the voss is I get killed by it so fast I don't have time to react. one second I'm getting shot and trying to move behind the corner I'm next to and the next I'm already dead. Even when playing with my shotty up close I can barely kill a voss player if they see me coming. I barely see any baur players. Btw, those airbursting rockets are the shit.

the Krylov kills the fastest btw. Now there's a crazy gun. tier 1 my ass, especially compared to the shitty SCAR

[Scraps]

Fine, I'll just let you lie and scream medi while I go help someone else. Better to have the slim chance of being able to get away than none at all. I guess my only beef with the voss is I get killed by it so fast I don't have time to react. one second I'm getting shot and trying to move behind the corner I'm next to and the next I'm already dead. Even when playing with my shotty up close I can barely kill a voss player if they see me coming. I barely see any baur players. Btw, those airbursting rockets are the shit.

the Krylov kills the fastest btw. Now there's a crazy gun. tier 1 my ass, especially compared to the shitty SCAR

Maybe you shouldn't be a tard medic and heal someone who is getting shot at. If you cant react to the gunshots its on you. Voss players are easy as fuck to kill. The SCAR is fucking awesome. That about sums it up.

[PsychoMantis]

This thread has way too much fucking bullshit in it.

[Scraps]

This thread has way too much fucking bullshit in it.

MOAR KILLING THE PAC (or EU) FORCES!

[Onyx]

That's different. That's a bug in a game that was exploited. It's people who milk kills from the easier weapons to show their "skills" (which is retarded in and of itself) that ruined FA.Or not, but nice try. I guess you forget all the horrible bugs, and the steep learning curve that drove people away.
Honestly, no one wants to play with a dickhead who is 30-2 and hasn't even made an attempt to use another gun. I don't care if YOU'RE having fun. If you're the only one on the map who is, something is wrong. The FAMAS, MP5, and AK47 up to about 3.0 were brutally accurate at any range at any setting which made them frustrating if you were being mauled at one of FAs many chokepoints.Spewing bullshit, I love it. The FAMAS (I don't even know how you named the MP5, especially how the Uzi up until 2.9 was better than that) could be beaten by a good sniper, or any other good player, hell even a MG, but notice how I said good. Doesn't apply to you I guess, especially how you think a couple guns, who could be easily countered, "ruined" the game :rolleyes:.
A game should be challenging not frustrating.And who are you to deem what is challenging and not frustrating? Getting your ass whooped by a good player? Then that's your problem, take your petty bullshit to another server, or learn to adapt.





Now BF2 and 2142 had a good idea with the metals. Since people are inherently idiotic and will make any and all attempts to look the best at all obscure shit out there regardless of whether or not anyone cares (ranking systems in games make my laugh), creating metals for completing tasks and using all weapons in the game instead of using only a handful of them, makes the game better.You make it seem like FA didn't do that. That's why FA outlived it's lifetime, the weapons all had unique flavors to it. Especially in a full pub, there were all sorts of weapons. But wait, those weapons killed FA, SO FUCK THEM!! :rolleyes:
It promotes substitution and change and not stagnant e-penis matches that drives away players with other people's constant egotism and arrogance.Oh please, it's the internet. Stop being so soft and getting your panties in a bunch.


Of course you will. You're one of the asses that sees nothing wrong with parking yourself in the bunker on coldwar with 3 other guys with SVDs milking hks instead of moving ahead, because you can.Or not, especially how I assault in almost all shooters I play. Nice try though, plus it's called defending, someone doesn't always have to move up to do their job. Plus, if you keep running into him, don't you think you should change up your plan on attacking them? Just a little bit? Oh wait, you're talking about public servers. If it pisses you off so much, stop playing in those hellholes, and join a team with some friends where you can actually communicate to people :lincoln:.
The type of guys that immediately checks their stats at every 2 minute mark to make sure they're still ahead. The type of people that drive casual people away with their caustic attitude, because they feel that being nothing but the best IN A VIDEO GAME, is the highest achievement for a person.And yet, here you are in all your glory, bitching about these people IN A VIDEO GAME. Like I said, get off the public servers for once, and play some nice clan matches (And I mean organized teams, not some OTF team you play with once a week).

If they added a system where people could only milk weapons for a set period of time, in which case they're required to pick something else (there were over 7 rifles ffs, there's no reason you can't take something else for a bit) would have probably turned FA into less of a e-penis cockslapping match for the elite, and more into a multiplayer game for multiple types players.Or not, because you're too much of bitch to look past that and try to have fun :menkey:.

[BlindSite]

Does anyone else prefer using the weapon models/weapons on the EU side?

[Onyx]

No, because I never use default unlocks.

[HarryB]

Or not, but nice try. I guess you forget all the horrible bugs, and the steep learning curve that drove people away.

Learning curve? What learning curve? The only thing you had to remember is that if you can't hold the button down and to bring bandages. As simple as that. The only game crippling bug besides helmit camming was the sticky bodies problem.

Spewing bullshit, I love it. The FAMAS (I don't even know how you named the MP5, especially how the Uzi up until 2.9 was better than that) could be beaten by a good sniper, or any other good player, hell even a MG, but notice how I said good. Doesn't apply to you I guess, especially how you think a couple guns, who could be easily countered, "ruined" the game :rolleyes:.

Thanks for proving my point on being elitist btw. Regardless, the MP5 was horrible because there was absolutely no recoil to it, so it was unbelievably easy to completely clear out a building without having to reload since 90% of your shots would hit the target without fear of wasting ammo through recoil. On top of that, the rate of fire was so high that tapping the mouse could put at least 5 rounds in your target. There was a reason it got the nickname bullet laser.

Also, the only maps that snipers and mgs were useful were on maps with straightaways, which were few and far between due to the fact that HL's engine couldn't handle large open areas very well. The majority of the maps in FA were close to medium quarters. This made rifles, smgs, and shotguns more popular. So if you're getting sniped, then you're getting sniped anyway since you're running out in the open through a straight away. However, since only 5% of any map (with the exception of Coldwar and that one map where you're in a city) actually have sniper nests that were effective, the majority of the fighting was in at around 20 yards. This is where the FAMAS and the AK completely dominated every other gun. The G3s and the AK74 were only good at ranges longer than that where they could pick people off. However, even from there the FAMAS could still lay down a narrow spray and wreck most people before they could get their first shots off.

And who are you to deem what is challenging and not frustrating? Getting your ass whooped by a good player? Then that's your problem, take your petty bullshit to another server, or learn to adapt.

When FA was at it's highest, almost all of the public servers had both the AK47 and the FAMAS on the ban list. The only servers that kept it were the heavy clan servers. The only reason they had it was due to the high k/d ratio you could get from it. The only other gun that ever got generally banned was the M82, prior to it getting hit with the nerf bat. It was horribly unbalanced as well.



You make it seem like FA didn't do that. That's why FA outlived it's lifetime, the weapons all had unique flavors to it. Especially in a full pub, there were all sorts of weapons. But wait, those weapons killed FA, SO FUCK THEM!! :rolleyes:

What the fuck are you talking about? You might want to strap a net to the back of your head because the point just whipped past your skull. The fact the game had so many weapons didn't kill it's fun, it was the fact that there was no incentive to not used the unbalanced weapons. Since the only thing the game tracked was kill/death ratio, then using the weapons that gave the highest potential allowed meant that in servers where the FAMAS wasn't banned, that was pretty much all that was used. If there was an incentive not to use it ALL THE TIME, it wouldn't have been so bad.

Oh please, it's the internet. Stop being so soft and getting your panties in a bunch.

Please... It's a fucking game. It's supposed to be fun for everyone, not the 5 dicks with super computers and a superiority complex.


Or not, especially how I assault in almost all shooters I play. Nice try though, plus it's called defending, someone doesn't always have to move up to do their job.

Get real. Coldwar was notorious for people setting at the bridge or bunker ALL GAME. And these people were generally the asses that more worried about getting kills than actually helping anyone.

Plus, if you keep running into him, don't you think you should change up your plan on attacking them?

You do remember Coldwar right? It was unbelievably easy to defend the bridge or cave. It was so easy that they had to add additional methods to proceed because people kept bitching about it. FA was horrible for chokepoints. If you tried to run the gauntlet to the bunker, generally someone with a FAMAS was coming towards it.

Just a little bit? Oh wait, you're talking about public servers. If it pisses you off so much, stop playing in those hellholes, and join a team with some friends where you can actually communicate to people :lincoln:.

God I hate this argument. Instead of allowing people to be public on a public game, your force them to permanently group up. This then drives any casual player out. S^D were horrible for that. If you happen to be on a public server, then you knew another was coming. Then another. And they would automatically go on the same team. Then completely dominate the public server.

WoW is horrible for that too. At least Blizzard is doing something about it by forcing premades into they're own games.


And yet, here you are in all your glory, bitching about these people IN A VIDEO GAME

Why not. It's a game, not a sport. You don't get paid. You don't get trophies that can sit up on your mantle piece. It's a game. These dick heads forget that fact and make it a chore to play with their egotistical, arrogant, and disrespecting attitude.

Like I said, get off the public servers for once, and play some nice clan matches (And I mean organized teams, not some OTF team you play with once a week).

I shouldn't have to. There is no reason why in order to enjoy the game I have to join a clan. That was what killed the game. It slowly turned into a clanner dick waving party that was completely irritating and a chore to play. They never fixed the unbalanced weapons, which the clans exploited to their full potential. By around 2003 and 2004, the only servers were clan ones that were "Hardcore". Public and clan-public servers (ie. PoP) went under because no one could be assed enough to play the game.

Or not, because you're too much of bitch to look past that and try to have fun :menkey:.

Right, because that would have dampened in your FAMAS rapage and might have actually meant you would need to use a different weapon to be that uber player you apparently feel needs to be stated. Sickening. You're the reason that game died and that attitude I mention. What a dick.

:menkey:

-e- Well, considering you think that stats make the game, I doubt this is going to end well. So I'm leaving the thread.

[Yiggs]

I like the look and feel of the revolver. :3 And why not rev a guy getting shot at? It gets me points and you don't suffer in the end either way.

[PsychoMantis]

I like the look and feel of the revolver. :3 And why not rev a guy getting shot at? It gets me points and you don't suffer in the end either way.

I don't understand why you can't grasp why people don't like being rezzed more than 3 times in a killzone.

[Yiggs]

well, you can lay there and wait to spawn, or I can rez you, maybe after your second rez you'll be quick enough to jump up and run away? in any case, I'll do it because I want to. At least it's not as lame as the guys running around with rdx in CQC and blowing everyone up with it and not dying himself. That's just BS.

[Pltcl Sniper]

i love the look of krylov, much better looking that the other one, i can never rember which force has the krylov its the weapon when you equip it and the scop pops up out of the firearm.

[Yiggs]

Pac

[Onyx]

Learning curve? What learning curve? The only thing you had to remember is that if you can't hold the button down and to bring bandages. As simple as that. The only game crippling bug besides helmit camming was the sticky bodies problem.Yes, there was a learning curve. I've said this a thousand times, FA was all about movement, not recoil control (Compared to games like DoD, CS, etc). Think about it, you're trying to pick up a game, and all you do is get mowed down by someone strafing in different directions. This happens to you, all the time. You try do it, but since you're still learning, you get shot down quickly. You get frustrated, and you leave. You can ask majority of who played FA for very little why they left, and it wasen't mainly because of the community.



Thanks for proving my point on being elitist btw. Regardless, the MP5 was horrible because there was absolutely no recoil to it, so it was unbelievably easy to completely clear out a building without having to reload since 90% of your shots would hit the target without fear of wasting ammo through recoil. On top of that, the rate of fire was so high that tapping the mouse could put at least 5 rounds in your target. There was a reason it got the nickname bullet laser.It's not being elitest, it's stating how, because of your inadenquency at the game, allows you to make up retarded shit. Like I said, the Uzi was far more deadly than the MP5. Plus, they're SMGs, what more do you fucking want? It's a gun that's meant to have put down suppressing fire with minimum recoil, but you give up power. They were only effective in CQC, what's wrong with that? So tell me, how would you make the game better? Because apparently this "bullet laster" obviously ruined the game.

Also, the only maps that snipers and mgs were useful were on maps with straightaways, which were few and far between due to the fact that HL's engine couldn't handle large open areas very well. The majority of the maps in FA were close to medium quarters. This made rifles, smgs, and shotguns more popular. So if you're getting sniped, then you're getting sniped anyway since you're running out in the open through a straight away. However, since only 5% of any map (with the exception of Coldwar and that one map where you're in a city) actually have sniper nests that were effective, the majority of the fighting was in at around 20 yards. This is where the FAMAS and the AK completely dominated every other gun. The G3s and the AK74 were only good at ranges longer than that where they could pick people off. However, even from there the FAMAS could still lay down a narrow spray and wreck most people before they could get their first shots off.You give such petty examples. Those situation could go either way.

You can pull up the code and look at the FAMAS:
It's the weakest AR.
It's the least accurate AR (Even with a Marks II)
The only reason people used the FAMAS was because of it's rate of fire. That's it. Put it in the right hands, it's deadly. You can't win Harry, if you tuned it down to where it was a peashooter, people like sgossard and other good players would dedicate to the new adjustments. You would still be crying, to the point where you would want it removed from the game :lincoln:.



When FA was at it's highest, almost all of the public servers had both the AK47 and the FAMAS on the ban list. The only servers that kept it were the heavy clan servers. The only reason they had it was due to the high k/d ratio you could get from it. The only other gun that ever got generally banned was the M82, prior to it getting hit with the nerf bat. It was horribly unbalanced as well.FA was at it's highest in 2.5. The AK had an exploit where if you held the second fire and primary at the same time, you would have no recoil. And people banned the FAMAS because they couldn't adjust. Simple as that.




What the fuck are you talking about? You might want to strap a net to the back of your head because the point just whipped past your skull. The fact the game had so many weapons didn't kill it's fun, it was the fact that there was no incentive to not used the unbalanced weapons. Since the only thing the game tracked was kill/death ratio, then using the weapons that gave the highest potential allowed meant that in servers where the FAMAS wasn't banned, that was pretty much all that was used. If there was an incentive not to use it ALL THE TIME, it wouldn't have been so bad.But then again, these weapons weren't as bad as you make them out to be. And no, the FAMAS was not the only thing that was banned, you would probably see around 5 or 6 the most (With the exception of the FOG server, but we did that for fun to see who was the best at the gun) on a team of 16.



Please... It's a fucking game. It's supposed to be fun for everyone, not the 5 dicks with super computers and a superiority complex.You just said earlier you didn't care if I was having fun because I was using a gun you didn't like. Well that's not really fair, Harry. How can it be possible for everyone to have fun? Especially how we have different opinions. Let's put it this way, if we followed your logic, FA wouldn't of made it past 2.6 :lincoln:.



Get real. Coldwar was notorious for people setting at the bridge or bunker ALL GAME. And these people were generally the asses that more worried about getting kills than actually helping anyone.Then blame the fucking map design, we all know that map was horrible fucking unbalanced.



You do remember Coldwar right? It was unbelievably easy to defend the bridge or cave. It was so easy that they had to add additional methods to proceed because people kept bitching about it. FA was horrible for chokepoints. If you tried to run the gauntlet to the bunker, generally someone with a FAMAS was coming towards it.Thanks for proving my point again. It's the horrible map design, it wasen't always the guns fault.



God I hate this argument. Instead of allowing people to be public on a public game, your force them to permanently group up. This then drives any casual player out. S^D were horrible for that. If you happen to be on a public server, then you knew another was coming. Then another. And they would automatically go on the same team. Then completely dominate the public server. Maybe because it put players like you in a wild frenzy. That's always a joy to see.

"FUCKING CLANNERS, OMG U R SOOOOO BAD"

Classic. One of the reasons I loved playing on pubs.

WoW is horrible for that too. At least Blizzard is doing something about it by forcing premades into they're own games.Awesome.



Why not. It's a game, not a sport. You don't get paid.Actually, I do get paid :D.
You don't get trophies that can sit up on your mantle piece.http://www.gotfrag.com/files/upload/galleryimage_19725_f.jpg

:)
It's a game. These dick heads forget that fact and make it a chore to play with their egotistical, arrogant, and disrespecting attitude.Enough of your sweeping generalizations. Just say away from them, simple as that.



I shouldn't have to. There is no reason why in order to enjoy the game I have to join a clan. That was what killed the game. It slowly turned into a clanner dick waving party that was completely irritating and a chore to play. They never fixed the unbalanced weapons, which the clans exploited to their full potential. By around 2003 and 2004, the only servers were clan ones that were "Hardcore". Public and clan-public servers (ie. PoP) went under because no one could be assed enough to play the game.That's the teams fault, not the clanners. Plus it's a public server, I can do whatever the hell I want, when I want, as long as I follow the rules there. Meaning I don't exploit, swear, complain, or whatever. Simple enough.



Right, because that would have dampened in your FAMAS rapage and might have actually meant you would need to use a different weapon to be that uber player you apparently feel needs to be stated. Sickening. You're the reason that game died and that attitude I mention. What a dick.Another sweeping generalization. You are the smartest person in the world, I hope you know that.

Like I said before, and I have people to back me up on this. I could of used any other gun to whoop sorry ass players like you.

:menkey:

-e- Well, considering you think that stats make the game, I doubt this is going to end well. So I'm leaving the thread.This had nothing to do with stats. Off with you fool, your argument was nothing but dribble. You went from unbalanced gameplay, to how "lame" people played, to how "I" killed the game of FA. You're worse than a bipolar coke addict, but at least you're doing yourself a favor :lincoln:.

[GrosPoisson]

well, you can lay there and wait to spawn, or I can rez you, maybe after your second rez you'll be quick enough to jump up and run away? in any case, I'll do it because I want to.

You're kidding right? People like me camp and wait for people to defib the person we just killed so we can get a second kill off the same guy, and possibly a third and fourth if the medic behind them is especially persistent. Let me restate that: sometimes the guy who just died is under so much damn fire that every time he gets defibbed he'll just die again. It's not a matter of being fast enough, it's a matter of that quarter to half second it takes to get out of prone, into the standing position, and then sprinting the fuck out of there is sometimes way too long to do anything but catch a chest full of MG rounds and die again.

As for not harming anyone, think of the guy you just revived. Not only is he dead again and not playing the game in any real sense of the word, but his time to respawn counter has just been reset to 15 seconds (by default). You're basically tying up that person under those conditions. Hell, you won't even get points after a while! The measure EA implemented to reduce stat padding here was apparently to cut off any point gain after a certain number of revives in a short period of time. You can try this out for yourself by getting into a series of massive firefights; at some point you'll notice the text telling you about how you just got a revive score is missing. It's not a glitch, your points literally will not go up after some arbitrary cutoff.

Actually, scratch that, there's an easier method. If you stick by a recon player who's sniping for a good two or three minutes and is constantly getting killed by the enemy, you'll notice that after a few revives the same thing will happen. The difference here is that the recon player likely has time to get the hell out of there if the situation gets bad enough, whereas the hapless guy in the corner taking heavy fire does not.

Now, if you're part of a well-organized squad who can actually take out whoever's laying down fire, great. Zap that dead guy. If you're just doing it for the points, I'd recommend finding another way to get points without making some poor sap wait longer to respawn.

[Splitlip]

rez camping your own team is even stupider than looting during a fight.

[DunNa]

If after the second zap someone doesn't try to move I leave them but I give them the chance. Theres no good excuse besides making them wait afew more seconds specially when by taking the shoter route your costing your team tickets. Though just staying there ressing him over and over even if hes not trying is just stupid.

As for EU defaults weps... The morrieti (the sniper) is the best sniper ingame, better scope than the park (PAC sniper) and the zheller just sucks. The bianchi is the better LMG for rambo action jesus, though the shuko is better for laying down 20000000 rounds of ass kicking. The EU AT missles look cooler not exactly sure on which is better, the SMGs seem about equal. The scar is just a peice of shit.

[Anti-Llama]

The krylov is extremely good, but id rather use the baur than the scar.

[Pltcl Sniper]

the krylov is god when assulting or definding the titan, you wont be able to take out the consoles but, your able to hose people with it.

[Yiggs]

Onyx is raping this thread a new asshole.

I finally can field unlock the clark, and there's nothing like running in and blowing three guys and their spawn beacon away in no time. I just wish that the reg with this gun was better, I can't hit anybody running sideways or up close and prone. Doesn't hit them at all. And at least I'm rezzing people, that can't be said for the 30+ guys on my team playing assault that totally ignore you when you've been shot.

I was thinking about how a well organized squad in an APC could totally dominate ground forces. EMP grenade to a tank, three engies jump out and wipe the flor with their philum. *drool* I just wish that when I'm driving , that the guy in the infantry pwn seat (three grenade launcher) would fucking look around for enemies. I'm tired of dying to the guy in the rorsch right in front of us because the grenade guy is sitting there with his thumb in his ass. :x

[DunNa]

Like every since gun in the game you need to lead them abit, due to latency. Its part of learning how to play and how to aim and why most people such with the baur upclose (to accurate where as the voss's cone just gets huge while moving and spraying). The shotgun also has a rather "realistic spread" aka at like 5-10ft your not gonna be to much larger than a softball.

[PsychoMantis]

A lot

Onyx, that is neither here nor there; please man, make another thread for it.

[Yiggs]

The shotgun also has a rather "realistic spread" aka at like 5-10ft your not gonna be to much larger than a softball.

Yeah, I love that :P

[GrosPoisson]

And at least I'm rezzing people, that can't be said for the 30+ guys on my team playing assault that totally ignore you when you've been shot.

Still, you have to balance that out with realizing that sometimes you're better off letting someone spawn back in, depending on the situation.

[Splitlip]

I had to change teams today because some cockmunch was rez'ing me into a crossfire between 2 sentries. 4 freakin deaths.

[Pltcl Sniper]

i never unlocked the Defib or the handgrenade :-\ kinda thinking about putting the ganz on hold for the handgrenade... though th EMP grenade is nice.

[DunNa]

The hand grenade does not take up a slot, its something you will always have on you once you unlock it. The sprint unlocks (injections after the nades) are AWESOME the two combined basicly cut running time almost in half (one adds stamina the other makes it recharge faster).

So basicly you can use your emp nades, your hand nades, and have that other slot for whatever (sentry turret I guess). You can throw down and ammo box and throw a basicly endless stream of nades into crowded places on near spawns.

[Pltcl Sniper]

i mostly want em for defending the titan, because ive found you get more action when you defend than when you assult, ive played one sever were i was the only one assulting there titan and I managed to blow up there own titan single handedly, oh the memories.

[Scraps]

i mostly want em for defending the titan, because ive found you get more action when you defend than when you assult, ive played one sever were i was the only one assulting there titan and I managed to blow up there own titan single handedly, oh the memories.

The army is using 2142 to train you for future *conflicts* :p

[Anti-Llama]

I had to change teams today because some cockmunch was rez'ing me into a crossfire between 2 sentries. 4 freakin deaths.

you do realize that being critically wounded does not count as a death. If you get rezzed a billion times and finally die, it only counts as 1 death.

[GrosPoisson]

i never unlocked the Defib or the handgrenade :-\

:o :o :o

You NEED the grenades so you can get the two sprint upgrades like DunNa said. Without those two sprint upgrades, you're cheating yourself out of the ability to haul ass to another cap point or silo. Damn, I don't understand how you managed to get anything done without those.

you do realize that being critically wounded does not count as a death. If you get rezzed a billion times and finally die, it only counts as 1 death.

Truth. If that wasn't true, I'd have a dozen purple hearts right now, instead of my nice count of zero.

[Scraps]

I need to unlock the zoom scope for the sniper rifles.

[Yiggs]

Yeah, it's a lifesaver

[Splitlip]

you do realize that being critically wounded does not count as a death. If you get rezzed a billion times and finally die, it only counts as 1 death.

And that makes it less annoyng how?

[Yiggs]

And that makes it less annoyng how?

...by not having 4 deaths attributed to your score? Stealing my vehicles while I'm trying to repair them is annoying as well, but what are you gonna do about it?

[PsychoMantis]

...by not having 4 deaths attributed to your score? Stealing my vehicles while I'm trying to repair them is annoying as well, but what are you gonna do about it?

Hope FF is on and put detpacks on them first :)

I do.... not really :huh:

[Splitlip]

...by not having 4 deaths attributed to your score? Stealing my vehicles while I'm trying to repair them is annoying as well, but what are you gonna do about it?

Okay, so you can get rez points i have to flop up and down in front of enemy fire like some sort of jack-in-the-defilade? Rez whoring was bad in BF2, its bad in BF2142.

[SWATJester_os]

Here's a hint: get out of the enemy's fire. If the teammate can rez you without dying, that means you're close enough to get under cover too.

[Splitlip]

Yes, because its so easy to reach cover when 2 sentries and 2 supports with Ganz's have you in their feild of fire. Why didnt they hit the guy who was peeking out of cover and rez'ing me? Same clan.

[Yiggs]

I've never encounter two sentries and two ganzs at once, the guys I usually repeatedly rez get plinked to death by snipers or one or two mgs. Plenty of time to move.

[DunNa]

Yes, because its so easy to reach cover when 2 sentries and 2 supports with Ganz's have you in their feild of fire. Why didnt they hit the guy who was peeking out of cover and rez'ing me? Same clan.

That sort of thing is "bitch" worthy but the average "res and die" situation is avoidable after abit though the downside is that if the enemy is close enough (and has a brain) they will just throw a nade over there killing both you and the resser.

[Yiggs]

So I was checking my weapon scores, and looked at what I got killed by the most. I have a respectable number of deaths to a lot of weapons, but guess which weapon I have the most deaths by? The Voss, leaps and bounds above every other gun. 190 deaths that that little SoB. Next highest up is somewhere in the 70's

[SWATJester_os]

I've been enjoying the recon class with the lambert, the active camo, and the detpack. Jihad buggy someone, then hop out and lambert the fuck out of anyone who lives. Active camo lets you get to cover safely.

[Scraps]

So I was checking my weapon scores, and looked at what I got killed by the most. I have a respectable number of deaths to a lot of weapons, but guess which weapon I have the most deaths by? The Voss, leaps and bounds above every other gun. 190 deaths that that little SoB. Next highest up is somewhere in the 70's

Dude, Yiggi.
SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT THE VOSS!

[GrosPoisson]

I've never encounter two sentries and two ganzs at once, the guys I usually repeatedly rez get plinked to death by snipers or one or two mgs. Plenty of time to move.

In that case you're perfectly justified in zapping those guys and expecting them to run out. The problem most of us have is with the situations with heavy fire where it's literally impossible to get out of harm's way after being zapped.

That sort of thing is "bitch" worthy but the average "res and die" situation is avoidable after abit though the downside is that if the enemy is close enough (and has a brain) they will just throw a nade over there killing both you and the resser.

QFE. This is what assholes like me are waiting for and specially save up frags for. I'm partial to airbursting rockets around the corner as I can get the guy getting zapped, the medic doing the zapping, and sometimes other hapless bystanders who think it's a great idea to bunch up near a corner.

[Yiggs]

Dude, Yiggi.
SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT THE VOSS!

Not when it's applicable.

[Scraps]

Just unlocked the Zeller-H, its awesome with the stabilizer+zoom.

[PsychoMantis]

Just used the regular sniper, its awesome with the stabilizer+zoom.

Fixed.

[Scraps]

Fixed.

If I wanted to say that I would have.

[Anti-Llama]

If I wanted to say that I would have.

I think he is implying that the default sniper rifles are equal to if not better than the unlockable one.

[Scraps]

I think he is implying that the default sniper rifles are equal to if not better than the unlockable one.

I know what he was implying.

[GrosPoisson]

The general feeling I'm getting is that the Moretti is the best sniper rifle if you've logged enough time with the sniper rifle to be able to pull off consistent headshots. For the rest of us non-leet snipers, the Zheller seems to be great because it does more damage per shot when hitting the torso.

The Moretti definitely has the best sight picture, the rectangle of doom. The Zheller's scope is like a looking through a straw.

[Scraps]

The general feeling I'm getting is that the Moretti is the best sniper rifle if you've logged enough time with the sniper rifle to be able to pull off consistent headshots. For the rest of us non-leet snipers, the Zheller seems to be great because it does more damage per shot when hitting the torso.

The Moretti definitely has the best sight picture, the rectangle of doom. The Zheller's scope is like a looking through a straw.

As long as it isnt the PAC sniper rifle im happy.

[SWATJester_os]

I think he is implying that the default sniper rifles are equal to if not better than the unlockable one.

Zeller does more damage though, as in actually able to get 1 hit kills with it even if you do miss the stabilize, and the scope tinting isn't so bad.

[GrosPoisson]

Zeller does more damage though, as in actually able to get 1 hit kills with it even if you do miss the stabilize, and the scope tinting isn't so bad.

Really? I can't stand that reddish tint! Whenever there's even a little bit of sunlight the tint washes out everything.

[DunNa]

Zeller does more damage though, as in actually able to get 1 hit kills with it even if you do miss the stabilize, and the scope tinting isn't so bad.

You can only 1hit torso kill on people not wearing armor (who takes armor off specially with the damn spring upgrades?). So its almost always 1 headshot, or 2 torso shots. The default snipers have more ammo per clip and a slightly faster rate of fire (thus faster kills on the body shots).

The zheller doesn't have enough of its boosts in the right places. The only thing that justifies its existance atm is the fact it can shoot out mines. Even then thats pretty limited and there are also much better options to clear mines. Such as throwing people in there and ressing them or using an engie defuser kit (which actually has abit of an AoE to it).

There are afew random instances where someone will be at like 79% health and you will body snipe them in one shot with a zheller where a default wouldn't but the randomness of that does not out weight the default snipers advantages.

[GrosPoisson]

There are afew random instances where someone will be at like 79% health and you will body snipe them in one shot with a zheller where a default wouldn't but the randomness of that does not out weight the default snipers advantages.

That's the only thing that I really like about the Zheller, but I guess at some point I should learn how to use the defaults better. I absolutely loathe the 3 round magazine though, most irritating thing ever.

Do you get any points for disarming mines, C4, etc. with the AE defuser? I've never really tried using the thing.

[vecdran]

Well I'm very skeptical about EA games, but I downloaded the 2142 demo yesterday.

From what I've seen, I have a feeling that this game is a lot of fun with an organized team. Because this is futuristic sci-fi, a lot of the inaccurate bullshit in BF2 doesn't bug me. I had some moments of fun playing the demo, but most of it was killed by retarded teammates.

I may purchase this game, even though I swore I would never touch another EA product ever again after BF2...

[Scraps]

Well I'm very skeptical about EA games, but I downloaded the 2142 demo yesterday.

From what I've seen, I have a feeling that this game is a lot of fun with an organized team. Because this is futuristic sci-fi, a lot of the inaccurate bullshit in BF2 doesn't bug me. I had some moments of fun playing the demo, but most of it was killed by retarded teammates.

I may purchase this game, even though I swore I would never touch another EA product ever again after BF2...

Trust me the current patch version and Northern Strike make it worth the purchase. Also teamwork ftw!

[GrosPoisson]

Trust me the current patch version and Northern Strike make it worth the purchase. Also teamwork ftw!

Is it a point whoring extravaganza? I mentioned this earlier, but the new NS awards seem really easy to get (http://www.totalbf2142.com/page.php?do=nsawards).

[Scraps]

Is it a point whoring extravaganza? I mentioned this earlier, but the new NS awards seem really easy to get (http://www.totalbf2142.com/page.php?do=nsawards).

I got like 4 unlocks in 2 days....

[GrosPoisson]

I got like 4 unlocks in 2 days....

Damn it. Now I'm alternating between wanting to buy NS and being horrified that EA's moneywhoring tactics are working on me.

Edit: Wait, from what rank did you start at and what rank did you end up at?

[Enders]

Is 2142 enjoyable solo play?
Is the engine still a buggy, sloppy mess when indoors and such?

I've been seriously considering purchasing it, and possibly northren strike, but I don't want to buy it and end up having it essentially die down just as I join

and I know you guys have been discussing it, but just to sum it up, is sniping a feasible/enjoyable part of the game?

I know I made an account in BF2 and used it solely for sniping, and I've been thinking about doing the same for 2142

[Scraps]

Damn it. Now I'm alternating between wanting to buy NS and being horrified that EA's moneywhoring tactics are working on me.

Edit: Wait, from what rank did you start at and what rank did you end up at?

NS Unlocks dont effect rank. NS is actually a good expansion with great maps/unlocks/vehicles. GET IT NOW!

[SWATJester_os]

It's entirely feasible. The recon class is arguably one of the best in BF2142

[GrosPoisson]

and I know you guys have been discussing it, but just to sum it up, is sniping a feasible/enjoyable part of the game?

I know I made an account in BF2 and used it solely for sniping, and I've been thinking about doing the same for 2142

Like SWAT said, it definitely is. One thing you do have to be aware of after coming in from BF2 though: the standard infantry rifles can tear you apart at distances they never could in BF2. The scope bobs up and down even when stationary, prone, etc. but is extremely predictable and easy to train yourself to take advantage of. (Although I liked it better in BF2 where you had to know the bullet drop and be fairly good at estimating range... made pulling off that perfect headshot at the edge of visibility all that much more sweet.)

Edit:

NS Unlocks dont effect rank. NS is actually a good expansion with great maps/unlocks/vehicles. GET IT NOW!

I'll look into it then. Out of curiosity, is it possible to take out a Goliath in one fully-loaded (5 RDX packs) carbomb, or it does it take more than that?

[DunNa]

bullet drop

Still exists, but they have "future bullets" that don't experience any noticable drop until past about 300/315 (depending on who you talk to).

Sniping is more than possible/fesible, though its not something that most people generally want in a squad (they'd rather have the carbine/explosives whore usually) or its completely the opposite and have a group of snipers though thats abit rare and usually your team will lose :(

"playing solo" is debatable... I usually play "by myself" in the respect I don't organise with people from some forum or clan. I just go to one of my usual servers and go have fun. If you play on the same servers often enough you'll notice whos good whos not etc and they will notice it to. You can start squading with those people and all that jazz. There are also servers like the Tatical gamer server the forces you to squad, and has rather strict rules which basicly FORCE team play and co-op work so they usually have a more mature crowd playing and just jumping in any squad generally turns out decently.

Recon is by no means the best class in 2142, if anything I would say it is strictly speaking the worst and only good in terms of solo stat/point whoring. I am of soooo much more use to my team as an assault/medic, support, or engie its not even right. Recons can shine pretty nicely when fully supported by a squad but without that support they arn't so hot in compairson, though I will not deny that they are loads of fun at times.

You first four unlocks should be frags, the two sprint injections, and the defib, after that it really doesn't matter to much. The reason I say the defib is manditory is that if you are playing assault and don't have a defib I would ask you to leave the server or get off my team.

[Scraps]

I'll look into it then. Out of curiosity, is it possible to take out a Goliath in one fully-loaded (5 RDX packs) carbomb, or it does it take more than that?

No, if it has all of its regens working. Otherwise its a big motion mine target.

[Anti-Llama]

Scraps i tried to join some servers with you on but they were all stupid knife only and those are gay so i left :(

[Scraps]

Scraps i tried to join some servers with you on but they were all stupid knife only and those are gay so i left :(

I had to get that silver badge and 500 points. Tmro i'll get gold and 1k pts. :D

[Enders]

I feel slightly ripped off by the Zeller...

3 round clip, not one shot kill, long reload, shitty ass scope

[PsychoMantis]

I feel slightly ripped off by the Zeller...

3 round clip, not one shot kill, long reload, shitty ass scope

See previous page :p

[GrosPoisson]

I feel slightly ripped off by the Zeller...

3 round clip, not one shot kill, long reload, shitty ass scope

Silly Enders. This is why you're supposed to comb through hundreds of posts in this topic. :D Did you unlock the thing or did you field upgrade to it and experience the suck?

[Enders]

I unlocked it, hoping some good would come of it

I only bought the game 3 days ago so I missed all the megadiscussion on this

Been getting pretty good at popping heads though, if only the fucking Bf2 engine wasn't so shitty and made smooth movements a hassale, I'd probably be doing better

[Scraps]

The Zeller is awesome, but you need to get the lambert,baur,voss(fag bag according to yigger), and the Engy unlocks( AA missiles are tits.)Also make sure you get the sprint unlocks and etc.

[Enders]

I have a 100% playing time on recon, don't think I'm going to switch any time soon

Will definatly try the Lambert, already two unlocks up that path

[Scraps]

I have a 100% playing time on recon, don't think I'm going to switch any time soon

Will definatly try the Lambert, already two unlocks up that path

IMO you need to play the other classes especially when you get 500 points for only 10 heals and 2 hours with the medic bag out :)

[Enders]

IMO you need to play the other classes especially when you get 500 points for only 10 heals and 2 hours with the medic bag out :)

I'm pushing 60+ points a round, which is ok with me
but yeah, I might try the assault class for some run and gun

[Scraps]

I'm pushing 60+ points a round, which is ok with me
but yeah, I might try the assault class for some run and gun

Medic whoring and support whoring make that childsplay.

[BlindSite]

I'm getting some error when I try to play

it says EC 5521

[Scraps]

Re-install and pray.

[Scraps]

Ok so im bumping this for my voss vs baur comparison (now that I have them)
Basicly the Baur is a headshot machine,comes with an awesome scope and is basicly a G3 w/ scope (idk if someone posted this). The Voss is basicly a G-36 that goes through ammo like a Famas. I dont get why you guys bitched about the Voss, its not even that good.

[PsychoMantis]

Ok so im bumping this for my voss vs baur comparison (now that I have them)
Basicly the Baur is a headshot machine,comes with an awesome scope and is basicly a G3 w/ scope (idk if someone posted this). The Voss is basicly a G-36 that goes through ammo like a Famas. I dont get why you guys bitched about the Voss, its not even that good.

Do you just enjoy throwing gasoline onto fires?

I've used both extensively, when I use the Voss I really do feel cheap, I get kills left and right I knew I would never get with any other gun in the game. Hands-down when I come up against someone with a Voss my only instinct for survival is to bunny-hop like some old CS player or get lucky and MAYBE find some cover.

[Scraps]

Explain how im throwing gas onto a fire?

[PsychoMantis]

Explain how im throwing gas onto a fire?

Because once again you insist that there is nothing wrong with the Voss while it is so obvious that the thing is far too powerful in and out of its supposed "proper" uses.

[Enders]

I've been unable to play since the last patch because everytime I select my soldier it does the whole 'crash to desktop faster than actually exiting the game' thing.

No solution thus far. GG EA

[BS87]

I bought 2142 and NS and played them for about a week. Now i just play BF2, i dont know why but i like BF2 so much better. I think i like the "openess" of BF2 rather than the close in fighting of 2142 or atleast 2142 feels more close in.

[Scraps]

Because once again you insist that there is nothing wrong with the Voss while it is so obvious that the thing is far too powerful in and out of its supposed "proper" uses.

I worry more about Ganz users than Voss users.

[PsychoMantis]

I worry more about Ganz users than Voss users.

AHHH YAH BEAT MEH!!

Actually, that's a very good point. With the new MG changes I'm actually scared of that damn thing, I used to just laugh at it.

[BlindSite]

I still can't get NS to download...

[Yiggs]

Sniping is too easy, and running a tank is too easy. If I'm careful, I can easily run >10:1 k:d ratios. :|

[BlindSite]

I'd rather get in a gun ship and wreak major havoc with that, nothing better than seeing your dudes getting owned by a walker and then swooping in and launching a buttload of rockets and ruining the walker's shit.

I hate the EMP rockets though, they piss me off no end.

[Scraps]

I'd rather get in a gun ship and wreak major havoc with that, nothing better than seeing your dudes getting owned by a walker and then swooping in and launching a buttload of rockets and ruining the walker's shit.

I hate the EMP rockets though, they piss me off no end.

EMP nades + teammates + camp G = fun