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Daywalker
April 9th, 2007, 03:27 AM
Say I bought several cds, but lost the cds. If I dled it through illegal means, wouldn't it be legal since I already own the songs?

BlindSite
April 9th, 2007, 08:48 AM
Umm, really, who cares? Like you'll feel guilty anyway.

Steadman
April 9th, 2007, 09:32 AM
sure you paid for them, but at current time of downloading you did not own them.

so no.

CaptCommy
April 9th, 2007, 11:38 AM
Unless you have the physical media on hand/easily accessable, then no, it is not legal.

pk!
April 9th, 2007, 11:52 AM
No. Whoever found your lost cds may have the right, but you don't.

Daywalker
April 9th, 2007, 01:31 PM
well fuck that i'll do it anyways

Gopats
April 10th, 2007, 12:08 AM
Legally wrong, ethically right

pk!
April 10th, 2007, 06:04 AM
I asked my brother in law if he minded if I downloaded his music instead of buying his cds. He made me buy him a drink, and then said it was fine by him.

So if you buy all your favourite musicians one beer each that might sort it out.

Maddog
April 10th, 2007, 06:08 AM
the RIAA has used the claim that when you buy a cd you are paying to be able to listen to the songs, not the actual songs themselves. So ripping them would be illegal, or something along those lines. Most people don't feel that way though. Legally its fuzzy though most people probably wouldn't care if you did so long as you had proof you purchased the songs.

FaKToR
April 10th, 2007, 07:11 AM
the RIAA has used the claim that when you buy a cd you are paying to be able to listen to the songs, not the actual songs themselves. So ripping them would be illegal, or something along those lines. Most people don't feel that way though. Legally its fuzzy though most people probably wouldn't care if you did so long as you had proof you purchased the songs.

They have the exclusive right to reproduce the work hence copy-right. In purchasing the media you are purchasing a license to own a copy. The law recognizes that you have a legal right to make a back up copy and would support the conversion of it into different formats by yourself so long as it is retained only by you.

That being said the acquisition of media from an unauthorized source to replace lost or damaged material, or acquiring it in another format (say a DVD copy to replace a VHS) is a matter that is still in need of a clear legal decision. The production companies are strongly of the opinion that both are not allowed and the "legal" course of action is to pay them all over again.

I suggest ethically you are entitled to retain it given the nonexclusive nature of media, that is the ability to reproduce or acquire a copy without denying the makers of a copy or demand.

Daywalker
April 11th, 2007, 03:52 AM
fuck it, I'll probably end up doing it anyways.