We all arrive at the same point in our lives, at the same point in time...

[IchWarriorMkII]

Women threads.


We all try to master the opposite sex, while simultaneously mastering our lives. I think they call it sensory overload in the airplane world, when you just get so fucked up and lose all touch of whats important that you wreck the fucking plane. Keeping one's cool however, and separating the bullshit from whats important, thats what lets you dead stick your plane to a soft touch down...


I think I wrecked the fucking plane.


So amoung other conversations, arguments, and discussions of this night I ask my woman creature this question:

So do you know if you still want to be with me? (she had been telling me/us "I dont know" to all previous questions)

Her reply, I don't know.

Pretty anti-dramatic and climatic, save for the fact she is my girl for 4+ years, recently moved in and a possible candidate for my IchWarrior's Child Bearing Lady award.


While I sit here, wish I could sleep, one singular fact has spelled doom to our continued existance with each other. If she can't figure out if she wants to be with me through our or trivial problems and challanges of life before marriage, I highly doubt her motivation to seek an enduring relationship of marriage.

I am most certain I could 'ride this one out' and keep her with me, but I feel that its only prolonging the inevitable...



Probably not quite the best way to que for advice, more of a physical release of emotional build up... But anything is welcome.

[nojmaster]

Trying to get straight answers out of woman you may well have pissed off, even following a straight question, can be a chore. Sometimes they say stuff like that to rattle you, or as a bit of a defense mechanism, or at least thats how I've percieved it when my girl has said things like that in the past. For me it always blew over and was fine afterwards.

[BS87]

haha i'm going through the SAME 100% exact thing only we've only been together for little over a year. It sucks man, it really does. Hopefull we can both get through it.


Gays have it so easy. Except for the taking it in the ass part.

[StandingCow]

I don't know is not a good answer... but is it that she is not ready to settle down... or what rabbit said...?

Tough call man.

[Chunkywheats]

I'm also in this 100% same situation, except I'm the one saying "I don't know".

I have been with my g/f for almost 3 years now, and we have seen a lot of shit together, but its at the point where, she is the only girl I have ever really dated, and I want to see what is out there. It is not so much that I'm looking for something better to come along, but I'm just ready to be out of the stressful situations that ensue from us being together (i.e. she lives at my house w/ my parents, etc. because her parents are complete and utter fuck ups). We live together, sleep together, eat together, work out together, and she even came to the same college as me. I'm at the point where its like, either we take a break now, and see what happens, or we just fucking get married. And I am NOT ready to get married. I have not seen enough for that.

Basically, I have told teh woman that I want to see other people, but she gets all depressed and mad and stuff, because she doesn't feel the same way I do.

She's my best friend and I know her better than anyone else in the world, and I have no desire to cut ties with her, but I have no desire to marry her either (at least at the momement). But that isn't good enough for her, and she keeps pushing me away by annoying me and stuff.


So I guess I'm saying a couple things:

1) just cuz she is saying that she doesn't know if she wants to be with you doesn't mean that she doesn't care

2) She may be looking for someone else coming along, but not necessarily because you aren't good enough, but just because she can't be ready to be committed until she does her thing.

3)Don't push her away by asking her over and over why she doesn't care about you the same way as you care about her. Be supportive and understanding, unless she does something to deserve otherwise.

[BlindSite]

Out of curiosity when was the last time you treated her like you did when you first met?

4 years is a long time to be together, try taking her out and just having fun with her rather than being couped up in the house. Go from there. She could just be bored with life, not just with you.

[guernica]

I'm in a similar place with my girl, but we are effectively "on break."

The "break" part is a fucking joke. She still tells me she loves me, we still sleep together, go on dates, whatever, but she doesn't want a label on the relationship. Some might think that this is an excuse for her to fuck around, but I'm 100% sure that's not the case. She's just junior in college not really sure what she wants yet. I don't know what I want yet either, but I think the situation is really fucked up and I'm getting rather fed up. I don't want to lose this girl because she makes me manically happy, but I can't stand the indecision and the feeling like my heart is being jerked around.

Most of all, I want to be able to move on with my life if we aren't going to make it. It's going to take me some time to get over her if we ever call it quits and I'd rather get on with my life and make the most of it while I'm young and irresponsible. One of these days I will have to act like an adult.

August will determine it all. I'll be moving into my own house, she'll be moving into her own. One of her roommates is a bitch and my girl lets her influence her too much (waaah spend time with me cos i've had a bad day my boy looked at my funny). I'll probably go balls to the wall with the guys cos we'll be living on our own (no more dorms!), with plenty of women and alcohol at our disposal.

We'll see...