NHL playoff prediction thread!

[StandingCow]

Round 1!

East -
Boston Bruins vs Montreal Canadians - I say Boston in 4 (sweep)
Washington Capitals vs New York Rangers - Caps in 6 (god I hate the rangers)
New Jersey Devils vs Carolina Hurricanes - Devils in 5 (I don't think the hurricanes are really that good)
Philadelphia Flyers vs Pittsburgh Penguins - Flyers in 7 (This is going to be a mean nasty rematch)

West -
San Jose Sharks vs Anaheim Ducks - Sharks in 4
Detroit Red Wings vs Columbus Blue Jackets - Wings in 5
Vancouver Canucks vs St Louis Blues - Canuks in 7
Chicago Blackhawks vs Calgary Flames - Blackhawks in 6 (Flames give up way too many goals)

[Skyler]

Bruins
Rangers
Devils
Penguins
Sharks
Wings
Blues
Blackhawks

[Lee]

pssst.. it's san jose vs anaheim, detroit vs columbus, vancouver vs st louis.

Boston
Washington
New Jersey
Pittsburgh (f the flyers)

San Jose
Columbus
Vancouver
Calgary .. will be a great series though, 7 games for sure.

[SWATJester_os]

East:
Montreal (upset)
Caps
Devils
Flyers

West:
Sharks
Wings
Canucks
Chicago

[StandingCow]

pssst.. it's san jose vs anaheim, detroit vs columbus, vancouver vs st louis.

Boston
Washington
New Jersey
Pittsburgh (f the flyers)

San Jose
Columbus
Vancouver
Calgary .. will be a great series though, 7 games for sure.

Fek, yea fixed (who cares about the west :D )

[Moe_Rahn]

Fek, yea fixed (who cares about the west :D )

>:/

[Polish Hill]

Here's my prediction, if the Flyers continue to lose games they will continue to be miserable cunts who try to injure opposing players. Their fans will justify their actions but in reality the whole team's mentality is that of a fucking untalented goon and they should be forced to take slap shots to the face.

God, I can understand a fight or chippy penalty out of frustration but I can't think of a more disgraceful sports team right now. Except possibly the Bengals.

[Maddog]

I gotta agree. the last 2 minutes of the game was uncalled for and unsportsmanlike

[Modest Genius]

wait, what did I miss? being in Britland, I'm stuck with the shitty highlights on nhl.tv, and they showed nothing after the Gagne goal...

[Maddog]

16:08 PHI Joffrey Lupul : Cross checking - 2 min
19:41 PHI Andrew Alberts : Slashing - 2 min
19:41 PHI Arron Asham : Roughing - 2 min
19:46 PHI Ryan Parent : Cross checking - 2 min
19:46 PHI Scott Hartnell : Misconduct (10 min) - 0 min
19:53 PIT Bill Guerin : Fighting (maj) - 5 min
19:53 PHI Braydon Coburn : Fighting (maj) - 5 min

and I didn't edit out any Pen's penalties

Not to mention after the fight there was a butt end of the stick to the head by Carcillo (PHI) on a pens player after the face off but it wasn't called.

[StandingCow]

Here's my prediction, if the Flyers continue to lose games they will continue to be miserable cunts who try to injure opposing players. Their fans will justify their actions but in reality the whole team's mentality is that of a fucking untalented goon and they should be forced to take slap shots to the face.

God, I can understand a fight or chippy penalty out of frustration but I can't think of a more disgraceful sports team right now. Except possibly the Bengals.

What pissed me off was one asshole player (Carcillo) and he knew exactly what he was doing, after being told by the ref not to do anything stupid. But a suspension is not called for in that case, just a misconduct. God, what a horrible trade Upshall for Carcillo, all we got was another Downie. The fans are not all justifying their actions, there are plenty on the flyers message board (where I am very active) and in the media who do not condone that.

Knock off the broadstreet bullies mentality, they haven't been that in a long ass time, they are talented (they had more 25+ goal scorers than any other team). If they weren't talented they wouldn't be in the playoffs. Listening to the horrible penguin announcers on youtube was painful. How do you guys listen to them every game?

Now, what I will say is the team is not playing with much heart... it has been a problem for a few months now. I think it had to do with them having no salary cap space and having to get rid of some key roleplayers (Metropolit, Upshall, etc). They don't have much speed now. I really hope things turn around next game.

16:08 PHI Joffrey Lupul : Cross checking - 2 min
19:41 PHI Andrew Alberts : Slashing - 2 min
19:41 PHI Arron Asham : Roughing - 2 min
19:46 PHI Ryan Parent : Cross checking - 2 min
19:46 PHI Scott Hartnell : Misconduct (10 min) - 0 min
19:53 PIT Bill Guerin : Fighting (maj) - 5 min
19:53 PHI Braydon Coburn : Fighting (maj) - 5 min

and I didn't edit out any Pen's penalties

Not to mention after the fight there was a butt end of the stick to the head by Carcillo (PHI) on a pens player after the face off but it wasn't called.

I had shut off the game in the third period so I missed a bunch of the calls. But that is obviously frustration. They played like a bunch of lazy people in that game. :/ No excuse for that.

Guerin jumped Coburn (I don't blame him since pens had to respond to the flyers) and should have also gotten an instigation penality (which I am against, but since the NHL is a joke now, they should at least be consistent).

You want to know who to blame for the increase in dirty play, head shots, and boarding calls? The NHL! They think they can take the control out of the enforcers hands, and put them in the refs hands. It isn't going to work. There have been tons of articles talking about it.

[Polish Hill]

I won't say much about the commentators other than Bob Errey is the man and not many people are big Steigy fans. Although honestly how many times do you watch clips of local sports announcers not from your hometown and think, man I wish he'd announce our games? I can't recall a single instance so I guess familiarity makes lots of things bearable.

I can't deny the Flyers aren't extremely talented and capable of much more than that game would lead viewers to believe. Still, I just don't like em. Not really partial either way about the suspension but the fine was definitely deserved. I'd almost say they should suspend Hartnell for a game but there's a chance his presence could help the Pens more than hurt them.

[StandingCow]

I won't say much about the commentators other than Bob Errey is the man and not many people are big Steigy fans. Although honestly how many times do you watch clips of local sports announcers not from your hometown and think, man I wish he'd announce our games? I can't recall a single instance so I guess familiarity makes lots of things bearable.

I can't deny the Flyers aren't extremely talented and capable of much more than that game would lead viewers to believe. Still, I just don't like em. Not really partial either way about the suspension but the fine was definitely deserved. I'd almost say they should suspend Hartnell for a game but there's a chance his presence could help the Pens more than hurt them.

Why the hell should they suspend hartnell? That is the stupidest comment I have heard so far.

Much better game tonight, weak ending though. :(

[Polish Hill]

I was mostly suggesting that as a joke since he was such a douche and taking such terrible penalties the first game. Close game tonight that easily could have gone the other way.

[StandingCow]

I was mostly suggesting that as a joke since he was such a douche and taking such terrible penalties the first game. Close game tonight that easily could have gone the other way.

Yea, he does that now and then, then you watch him tonight and he was good. Just has to quit the stupid BS.

I really hope the flyers can tie this up playing at home...

[StandingCow]

Tell me how carcillo gets suspended but Cammalleri doesn't? LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g_r0xcKVIY&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hockeyfights.com%2Fforums%2F f15%2Fflyers-carcillo-suspended-one-game-120234%2Findex5.html&feature=player_embedded

[Skyler]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Skyler8158/kinghenrik.jpg

[StandingCow]

9XKyMv0xpt8

lol awesome

[Skyler]

WTF Avery, way to take 18mins in penalties.

[StandingCow]

WTF Avery, way to take 18mins in penalties.

He either really helps or really hurts his team.. he always has been, and always will be a selfish asshole.

[Polish Hill]

Bad job Montreal booing the US national anthem. You get one fantastic middle finger.

[Skyler]

I bet the four American born players on the Habs were proud of their fans...

[StandingCow]

Bad job Montreal booing the US national anthem. You get one fantastic middle finger.

Yep, classless. This is the main reason I hate the Habs... their fans.

[Maddog]

speaking of which, what's with Philly singing God Bless America instead of the national anthem?

[StandingCow]

speaking of which, what's with Philly singing God Bless America instead of the national anthem?

I think they do it in addition to....? I really don't know.

[Maddog]

hell of a game going on in Philly right now

3-3 after 2

[Maddog]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[StandingCow]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Yea, I don't know how we blow a 3-0 lead.

You guys are fucked against boston.

[Lee]

3/4 right in the east, 1/4 right in the west.. lets try again. Second round match ups!

EAST
Boston Bruins vs Carolina Hurricanes - Boston in 6 .. Cam Ward will steal a game or two
Pittsburgh Penguins vs Washington Capitals - Pittsburgh in 7. This'll be a great series.

WEST
Anaheim Ducks vs Detroit Red Wings - Anaheim in 7. They seem really determined and are playing great hockey. Hiller's been unreal against San Jose especially compared with Osgood who only had to deal with Columbus.
Vancouver Canucks vs Chicago Blackhawks - Vancouver in 7. Luongo is ON. Chicago has a lot of firepower but it won't matter.

The West is going to have a lot of overtime.. the hockey's only getting better. Should be a great second round.

[StandingCow]

EAST:
Boston vs Carolina - Boston in 5 I am amazed they beat the devils really.
Pittsburgh vs Washington - Washington in 6

West:
Anaheim vs Detroit - Wings in 6
Vancouver vs Chicago - Chicago in 7

[Maddog]

Boston
Pittsburgh
Anaheim
Vancouver

all in 6

[Modest Genius]

oi idiots, post your predictions in the other thread (http://forums.otfnation.com/showthread.php?t=55725)

[StandingCow]

oi idiots, post your predictions in the other thread (http://forums.otfnation.com/showthread.php?t=55725)

This thread is calling the amount of games as well.

[Lee]

thread merge gogogo

[Modest Genius]

meh, we can use this thread for general discussion, and keep the other for predictions?

btw, anyone know of a better place to watch online highlights than nhl.tv? being britland we get essentially no TV coverage, and I'm getting a bit fed up of the short shitty low res highlights on nhl.tv

[StandingCow]

meh, we can use this thread for general discussion, and keep the other for predictions?

btw, anyone know of a better place to watch online highlights than nhl.tv? being britland we get essentially no TV coverage, and I'm getting a bit fed up of the short shitty low res highlights on nhl.tv

Hmmm... try hockeybuzz? I know they have video somewhere on there, not sure though.

[pr0nstar]

EAST:
Boston vs Carolina - Boston / 6
Pittsburgh vs Washington - Pitts / 7

West:
Anaheim vs Detroit - Wings / 5
Vancouver vs Chicago - Vancouver / 7

[Modest Genius]

Hmmm... try hockeybuzz? I know they have video somewhere on there, not sure though.
there's video, but it's all discussion, no highlights

what did you guys think of the saves in the last couple of days? Varlamov's was unreal, but I can't forget that he let in a seriously soft one immediately beforehand. Luongo was just as impressive, and Cam Ward made a superb series of saves that were technically just as good, but haven't had the exposure because they weren't as spectacular

edit: youtubbage

Varlamov:
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Luongo:
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Ward:
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[StandingCow]

Varlamov's save was unreal... best save of the year.

[StandingCow]

Wow... interesting situations the past few games:


1. How is Kunitz not suspended for this (pens)?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_2Fb2V8EfU
Now, the reason I am saying suspension, is because that is what the NHL is doing now... so, they have to remain consistent.

2. Quick fucking whistle on a loose puck in the detriot ducks game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ5FHOLWM_k

[Modest Genius]

that wings whistle was utterly ridiculous. the ref was probably quick to blow because there was so little time left on the clock, but was utterly wrong to do so. Even so, I'm not even convinced the whistle blew before the puck was in the net!

as for the cross-check, I'm not convinced that was deliberate, he was trying to jam the puck in, not knock the goalie over

[StandingCow]

that wings whistle was utterly ridiculous. the ref was probably quick to blow because there was so little time left on the clock, but was utterly wrong to do so. Even so, I'm not even convinced the whistle blew before the puck was in the net!

as for the cross-check, I'm not convinced that was deliberate, he was trying to jam the puck in, not knock the goalie over

Well, the rule on whistles is not when you hear the sound, but actually it is something like, as soon as the ref starts to bring his hand up to blow the whistle.. but, yea, this was ridiculous. Way to decide the game refs.

There is also some talk floating around of making the playoffs just like the regular season (1st OT 4 on 4 then shootout)... god I cannot put into words what a bad idea I think this is.

[Maddog]

holy hell what a game

Letang shits bricks all game and somehow gets the game winner

[StandingCow]

holy hell what a game

Letang shits bricks all game and somehow gets the game winner

Its ok, caps in 5. :)

[SWATJester_os]

Its ok, caps in 5. :)

Fuck yeah.

[Maddog]

pfft, you guys don't know what you're talkin about

[Maddog]

wooooooooooooooooo!


m-m-m-m-monster kill

[StandingCow]

wooooooooooooooooo!


m-m-m-m-monster kill

Yea, that was a pretty pathetic show by the caps. God I hate the pens!

Go Carolina/Boson! :)

[Polish Hill]

You guys are fucked against boston.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuu

[Skyler]

Jesus Christ both eastern teams I was rooting for lost. Go Chicago?

[StandingCow]

Jesus Christ both eastern teams I was rooting for lost. Go Chicago?

I am not sure who to go for... I would like to see chicago go to the cup.

And I would like to see carolina destroy the pens, and crosby to cry his eyes out.

[Maddog]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Modest Genius]

well, ahh, my East prediction didn't exactly work out

[Tori Storm]

i thought penguins gonna win the series 4-2. Never saw this coming. Hopefully detroit will let chicago win one more games, so the series can end 4-2.

[Maddog]

rematch!

[StandingCow]

Red wings in 4! I want tears streaming down cindy's face!

[Polish Hill]

The more Cow predicts in our opponents favor the more confident I get. And we just got the G-20, damn your doing a bad job.

[StandingCow]

The more Cow predicts in our opponents favor the more confident I get. And we just got the G-20, damn your doing a bad job.

Yea, my predictions have been awful. :(

But, seriously... who thought the canes would beat the bruins?! I mean come on...

[Maddog]

Well sure wasn't Fleury's night tonight... so unlucky

[Polish Hill]

Some pretty poor no calls, a terrible goal let in by flower and some luck by the wings and the pens have an uphill battle Tuesday

[Maddog]

MVP of Game 2: Detroit's goal post

[StandingCow]

Pens are going DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWN! :D

[Modest Genius]

not with two wins in a row they're not. dammit

[StandingCow]

Fucking penguins... ugh.

What the fuck.

[Tori Storm]

why this hatred towards the pen's ?

One thing i was hoping for was hossa getting a bunch of penalties but looks like hes handling the mental aspect pretty well. i thought the pens + fans will try their best to fck with him mentally.....but ohh well

Anyways, i still dont see this series going to 7.

[StandingCow]

why this hatred towards the pen's ?

One thing i was hoping for was hossa getting a bunch of penalties but looks like hes handling the mental aspect pretty well. i thought the pens + fans will try their best to fck with him mentally.....but ohh well

Anyways, i still dont see this series going to 7.

I have never liked the pens, but have really started to hate them due to the publicity they get.... it is BS. Last year the red wings beat them, and, as one of the red wings said... with all the publicity, you would think the pens had won. It is ridiculous.

Plus crosby's crying to refs constantly, even his team mate malkin has commented toward it.. he is just a big crybaby... even if he is extremely skilled.

[Maddog]

for fuck's sake he's the captain talking to the ref is his job. its just more noticeable than anyone else cause the camera's always on him.

[Modest Genius]

talking to the refs about what penalties have been given and why, yes. complaining about non-calls, no. diving, no.

[StandingCow]

for fuck's sake he's the captain talking to the ref is his job. its just more noticeable than anyone else cause the camera's always on him.

<3 you MD, but take off your BS goggles. Even other pens fans that visit the flyers forum have admitted to this.

talking to the refs about what penalties have been given and why, yes. complaining about non-calls, no. diving, no.

Exactly. And I am FAR from the only one that notices this shit. Like I said, his own team mates have commented on it.

[Polish Hill]

My opinion on Sid is this (Pittsburgh bias noted). Does he dive more than the typical hockey player? Absolutely. Does he complain to refs in situations where other captain/stars would be less likely? Yes, slightly. Is he a pussy? No.

My opinion of Sid is that he's a smart superstar. Maybe he's soft by hockey standards but a superstar, ANY superstar should use the advantages provided to him by his league (Kobe, Lebron, Brady, A-Rod) and exploit them.

Regardless its laughable to say the refs are favoring the Pens because while certain calls are questionable there have been multiple games where referee conduct has been laughable against the guins.

I'm sure the NHL would love the Guins to win this cup but that doesn't change the fact that the media and commentators want and expect the wings to win. Its safe, simple, and easy to explain to fans. I'm sure not many of you guys want that but to be frank the Pens are the more exciting team but either way the rest of the series should be fun and while I hope the guins win it should be a good series regardless.

[StandingCow]

My opinion on Sid is this (Pittsburgh bias noted). Does he dive more than the typical hockey player? Absolutely. Does he complain to refs in situations where other captain/stars would be less likely? Yes, slightly. Is he a pussy? No.

My opinion of Sid is that he's a smart superstar. Maybe he's soft by hockey standards but a superstar, ANY superstar should use the advantages provided to him by his league (Kobe, Lebron, Brady, A-Rod) and exploit them.

Regardless its laughable to say the refs are favoring the Pens because while certain calls are questionable there have been multiple games where referee conduct has been laughable against the guins.

I'm sure the NHL would love the Guins to win this cup but that doesn't change the fact that the media and commentators want and expect the wings to win. Its safe, simple, and easy to explain to fans. I'm sure not many of you guys want that but to be frank the Pens are the more exciting team but either way the rest of the series should be fun and while I hope the guins win it should be a good series regardless.

I hope you weren't saying I was suggesting the refs were bias toward the pens? Their calls have been all around horrible all year.

Does he complain to refs in situations where other captain/stars would be less likely? Yes, slightly.

Huh? He complains constantly, no matter what, in fact, I don't think I have ever seen him NOT complaining.

[Polish Hill]

The ref suggestions were preemptive more than anything, I'm sure they've helped some team but who I can't suggest.

My opinion of Sid is this, surely not objective but as close as a Burgher can be. Here are the stipulations that create my attitude.

I) He is one of the best players in the NHL. Top 3 easily and as such his likelihood to be given/receive penalties is different from others.

II) He scores a lot of points and is extremely popular. As such other players and fans are extremely jealous and envious of his position. Its laughable how low he was on the players assessment of the best player. This is clear from his performance in the playoffs. The same is obvious in players. As a fan of an amazing NFL team who has great NFL player rivals I understand. I'm sure multiple posters here have the same problem.

III) He is still very young, even younger than myself, which sucks.

Sid is a great player who utilizes his role in the NHL for a strategical advantage at times. He's unlikely to be called for diving due to the NHL's need for publicity so it exacerbates the problem. Still, the NHL needs him more than he needs the NHL and as such some of the problems can be reasoned. Is he the most talented? Arguable. Is he a vagina? Surely many can argue this but the fact remains he's one of the few stars who is willing to throw down and that demands respect.

I don't like a lot of enemy stars but I do respect them and I hope a few others could do the same. Continue?...9.....8.....7.....6

[StandingCow]

1. I disagree, he is in the top 10, but not the top 3.
2. Other players are, imo, the best source to find out who the other best players are. There is more to a "best player" than just points.
3. Yes, he is very young, and I am sure he will grow out of this, and eventually, maybe I won't mind him so much, but the issue is what he is now, not what he will become.

The NHL doesn't need him, the Penguins needed him, they were almost bankrupt.

He isn't my most hated player though, that would be Avery.

[Moe_Rahn]

1. I disagree, he is in the top 10, but not the top 3.
ovechkin, malkin, then who?

be honest now

seriously the only guys that i can think of to round out a top 3 list right now would be maybe datsyuk or iginla, and those guys would be really fucking borderline cases for third best player in the league

The NHL doesn't need him, the Penguins needed him, they were almost bankrupt.
the nhl needs everything it can fucking get if it wants to ever be anything more than the redheaded stepchild of north american sports

[Tori Storm]

1. I disagree, he is in the top 10, but not the top 3.


hes top 3 for sure, If we consider ovechkin the unanimous number 1, in my opinion 2nd place is tied between malkin and crosby.

if you look at crosby's stats hes been among the top overall points leaders when hes played anything to a full season and hes been awesome in playoffs.

As for NHL, not needing crosby, are you kidding me ? he generates massive revenue for NHL.

its ok if you dont like sid the kid, but atleast give credit where credit is due ;)

[Moe_Rahn]

As for NHL, not needing crosby, are you kidding me ? he generates massive revenue for NHL.

its ok if you dont like sid the kid, but atleast give credit where credit is due ;)
seriously, coming back from the lockout, crosby vs ovie was one of the things that saved the nhl (if you can even consider the nhl "saved" at this point)

ovechkin by himself, while still a wonderful thing, just would not have had the same impact without sid as a foil

[StandingCow]

ovechkin, malkin, then who?

be honest now

seriously the only guys that i can think of to round out a top 3 list right now would be maybe datsyuk or iginla, and those guys would be really fucking borderline cases for third best player in the league


the nhl needs everything it can fucking get if it wants to ever be anything more than the redheaded stepchild of north american sports

Stop just looking at points. Yes they are important, but there is a lot more to a player than points. Also, what about defensemen? Do you not count them because they are not forwards? What about goalies? There is more than just forwards. So, no, Crosby is not a top 3 player.

Hockey already is, and always will be the red headed stepchild in the US. Crosby won't change that, and didn't change the look of hockey by himself. Pittsburgh, as I said was going bankrupt, they had nothing to be exited about.

[Moe_Rahn]

Stop just looking at points. Yes they are important, but there is a lot more to a player than points. Also, what about defensemen? Do you not count them because they are not forwards? What about goalies? There is more than just forwards. So, no, Crosby is not a top 3 player.

you didn't answer the question

[StandingCow]

Just a quick top 10:

ovechkin
malkin
Lidstrom
Iginla
Niedermayer
Kiprusoff
Luongo
Lecavalier
Crosby
Datsyuk
Nash

[Moe_Rahn]

Just a quick top 10:

ovechkin
malkin
Lidstrom
Iginla
Niedermayer
Kiprusoff
Luongo
Lecavalier
Crosby
Datsyuk
Nash
interesting, i don't necessarily agree with all those choices (especially the ordering) but you could make a decent case for each of them

[StandingCow]

interesting, i don't necessarily agree with all those choices (especially the ordering) but you could make a decent case for each of them

Like I said, it was a quick top 10, since you were badgering me for it to answer your question. I would probably swap some around as well. I had trouble even putting crosby IN the top 10... like I said, points don't mean everything.

[Polish Hill]

Because clearly points are all Crosby has going for him :rolleyes:

And while I agree that players are some of the most qualified to assess fellow players its laughable to suggest that there's no bias in such ratings. I'm sure he's perfectly happy losing a popularity contest and being in the Finals.

[StandingCow]

Because clearly points are all Crosby has going for him :rolleyes:

And while I agree that players are some of the most qualified to assess fellow players its laughable to suggest that there's no bias in such ratings. I'm sure he's perfectly happy losing a popularity contest and being in the Finals.

Well, what else does he have going for him? Nobody would deny that he is extremely talented, and that talent shows in his point totals.

[Moe_Rahn]

yeah, what else does sidney crosby have going for him besides his massive amount of hockey skill, anyways

where the hell does he get off acting like he's all that

Like I said, it was a quick top 10, since you were badgering me for it to answer your question. I would probably swap some around as well. I had trouble even putting crosby IN the top 10... like I said, points don't mean everything.
okay good, for a second i thought you were suggesting that kipper was the best goalie in the league

[Polish Hill]

As one of, if not the youngest, captains in the league he's certainly got a fair amount of leadership skills. He's more than serviceable in the center circle and on defense. Also, he's got the stones to actually take a fight or two. Say what you will about him but at some put you have to put the bias away and realize how good he really is.

[StandingCow]

yeah, what else does sidney crosby have going for him besides his massive amount of hockey skill, anyways

where the hell does he get off acting like he's all that


okay good, for a second i thought you were suggesting that kipper was the best goalie in the league

Clearly you didn't read that I said there is much more to being a hockey player than just skill.

As one of, if not the youngest, captains in the league he's certainly got a fair amount of leadership skills. He's more than serviceable in the center circle and on defense. Also, he's got the stones to actually take a fight or two. Say what you will about him but at some put you have to put the bias away and realize how good he really is.

Yea, and he was given that position because he was a good player, not because he was a good leader. He doesn't yet have good leadership skills, hardly any at all.

YOU put the bias away. I never said he wasn't good, and he is in my top 10 list. kthx

[Polish Hill]

Oh well I'm over it let's rub dicks and hope the Pens can pull out these last two games. Sounds good bro? Sounds good.

[StandingCow]

Oh well I'm over it let's rub dicks and hope the Pens can pull out these last two games. Sounds good bro? Sounds good.

5-0 sweet!

Come on wings! :kak:

[Maddog]

GAME 7 TONIGHT!!!!



bitches :cool:

[StandingCow]

Gay

[Tori Storm]

awesome

[Maddog]

I almost got arrested twice tonight

omg im hammered

puckin

GOPENS

[Tori Storm]

HAHAH just imagine what Hossa must be thinking right now.....shouldve stayed with the pens BIATCH

[Polish Hill]

Also, Cow, <3 love you guy