Computer Help! Pzlzlplzp

[Violin]

Im trying to get into my bios to turn off hyperthreading (Because games run better without hyperthreading by a large margin), and My keyboard (USB), turns off on startup. This means I cant get into the bios because the buttons to press are on the damned keyboard. So my questions are...

How can I turn on my keyboard during the startup of my comp so I can get to my bios?

How can I turn off Hyperthreading without going into the bios?

(Again, my keyboard is USB, and my processor is a AMD64, though I know its not called Hyperthreading with AMD's, its called something else).

[GundamCL]

Only thing I can think of is getting one of those old ps2 connecting keyboards or the adaptor.

[Lord Kelvin]

There's a tech support forum.

And for the first question, try using a keyboard that plugs into the regular port, or get a USB adapter so you can plug your USB keyboard into it.

[Violin]

I never used the tech support forms. Sorry :o

And.... I dont have any other keyboard or connector. Im trying to work with what I have :o

[pk!]

I can't help you too much, but my USB k/b allows me to access BIOS.
PS/2 keyboards are very cheap.
Assuming this gets moved to the tech support forum, tell us the make of your keyboard and mobo and I'll see what I can do.

[Violin]

My keyboard is a SAITEK, and my system manufact is MSI

[pk!]

There is a quite long thread here:http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:vJ_-OvdQeBcJ:www.saitekforum.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D6833+saitek+usb+keyboard+bios&hl=en which seems to address your problem. If not, try the other Saitek forum links from http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=saitek+usb+keyboard+bios&meta= by clicking on the 'cached' link not the live link.

From a brief reading, it seems you need another keyboard, at least temporarily.

[Violin]

From a brief reading, it seems you need another keyboard, at least temporarily.

damnit

[Mr. Fiend]

damnitYou can get a generic PS/2 keyboard for $10. Maybe less. Hell, I find them at garage sales for $1 each.

[Violin]

But I wanted to do it NOW! :\

[Lord Kelvin]

Don't you have a second computer or something? Just grab the keyboard off of that, or dig around your attic for an old one. Alternatively, go to your neighbor's and ask to borrow their keyboard.

[Violin]

FUCK YES, I found an ancient keyboard :o now to see if it works.

[Violin]

it workz....

Another problem now. INTEL chips have something called "Hyperthreading", its an intel term. I have an AMD chip, so I think its called something else...anyone know? ;o

[spartan]

AMD has a HyperTransport bus, which is in no way similar to Hyperthreading except it shares the same acronym. From my understanding, Intel Hyperthreading enables the chip to run two threads at a time... sometimes... I have one myself, so that's why I say "sometimes". Hyperthreading helps the computer mutitask.

Furthermore, what makes you say that HyperThreading makes games run slower? I'm aware that there is a little history behind this rumor, but I thought it was clarified long time ago through benchmarks and whatnot.

Lastly, I seriously doubt there's any way to disable your HyperTransport bus.

[Captain Colon]

HT just makes your physical CPU appear as two logical CPUs. I believe the Xeon processors had a similar thingymabob.

If I'm not mistaken, it does actually reduce performance in certain applications that don't really require a lot of (if any) parallel processing. TomsHardware did benchmarks with it on and off, and for things like rendering video, performance was something like 5-10% better. For the home user it isn't that big a deal, but if you're running a server or other machine with two physical CPUs with HT (four logical CPUs), then you might run into the problem of processes being scheduled to run on two logical CPUs that belong to the same physical CPU...so instead of running each process with the full [available] power of each CPU, each process is using half of one CPU while the other just sits there and does nothing. Obviously all you need to do to fix this is to program a better method of scheduling CPU time.

According to wiki:
The future of Hyper-Threading is not bright. With Intel shifting its priority in processor design to energy efficiency and multi-core instead of single-core performance, Hyper-Threading seems to be a dead end. Hyper-Threading consumes about the same amount of power as an additional processor core, even though adding the technology only offers a fraction of the performance increase compared to adding another core to a processor. Thus, Intel has decided to relegate Hyper-Threading to a feature used to separate top of the line enthusiast processors from mainstream processors. This is demonstrated in the difference between the mainstream Pentium D which does not support Hyper-Threading and the top of the line Pentium Extreme Edition which does support Hyper-Threading.


But what do I know? I KNOW NUUTZZZZZZZZING

[Delta]

Um...

AMD's don't have 'hyperthreading'.

The only thing that AMD even does that comes close is their X2 series of processors, which fucking RULE for gaming... and everything else.

So, in essence, you're good, just install your games and play them. Because you obviously don't know nearly enough to be fucking around in your bios.

[Mirsky]

As stated in the article, hyperthreading is the simulation of two CPUs with one core (as opposed to having two physical CPUs). Whereas X2 is the actual incorporation of two physical processing cores within one package.