[NFL] Your thoughts on Favre...

[Rabbit]

Everyone is bickering over whether Favre went to the Vikings to get "revenge" and what playing against the Packers mean to him.

My opinion? Of course that's a part, but not in a bad way. I think leaving any organization there's a drive to show that organization you're better than they said you were, and getting the chance to prove that is huge. But more importantly, Favre has a very good relationship with many of the staff in the Vikings coaching line up, and is a good fit for their offense, not to mention he's playing against teams he knows and has always played against. It makes sense.

I'm sick of hearing everyone dog the guy and saying he's just out for revenge, the guy is out to play football. But even if he were, who gives a fuck?

It's the same with any organization anywhere. Hell even in bands. A lead singer gets kicked out because he "sucks" or "isn't a good fit", of course he's going to want to draw bigger crowds with his new band and make a bigger splash with his new band, it's human nature. No one likes to be forced out of something and see it excel without them.

[cpt.mars]

Everyone is bickering over whether Favre went to the Vikings to get "revenge" and what playing against the Packers mean to him.

My opinion? Of course that's a part, but not in a bad way. I think leaving any organization there's a drive to show that organization you're better than they said you were, and getting the chance to prove that is huge. But more importantly, Favre has a very good relationship with many of the staff in the Vikings coaching line up, and is a good fit for their offense, not to mention he's playing against teams he knows and has always played against. It makes sense.

I'm sick of hearing everyone dog the guy and saying he's just out for revenge, the guy is out to play football. But even if he were, who gives a fuck?

It's the same with any organization anywhere. Hell even in bands. A lead singer gets kicked out because he "sucks" or "isn't a good fit", of course he's going to want to draw bigger crowds with his new band and make a bigger splash with his new band, it's human nature. No one likes to be forced out of something and see it excel without them.

I live in Minnesota and go to school in Wisconsin.
I find football boring and overrated.

Feel my pain :(:(:(

[Mr_Rieper]

I live in Minnesota and go to school in Wisconsin.
I find football boring and overrated.

Feel my pain :(:(:(

I live about 30 miles from Green Bay, and for all intents and purposes I consider that my home town because that's where I went to high school. Every FUCKING season I can't get any real fucking news locally because everyone's circle-jerking the packers. I could care less. All it means to me is bad traffic on game day.

Honestly though, I think the last 2 years really kinda tarnished Favre's career, shoulda retired as a Packer, now he'll be remembered as a waffler.

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Where in Wisconsin do you go to school?

[cpt.mars]

Where in Wisconsin do you go to school?

Eau Claire

[Mr_Rieper]

Never been out that way. Hear it's a fun place though.

[Stalin]

Favre gives me an epic boner.

[Moe_Rahn]

I live about 30 miles from Green Bay, and for all intents and purposes I consider that my home town because that's where I went to high school. Every FUCKING season I can't get any real fucking news locally because everyone's circle-jerking the packers. I could care less. All it means to me is bad traffic on game day.

Honestly though, I think the last 2 years really kinda tarnished Favre's career, shoulda retired as a Packer, now he'll be remembered as a waffler.

holy shit i just noticed you're from appleton, my mom's from kaukauna and damn near the whole family still lives in the area

it's their fault i was raised a packers fan (that and the fact that the rams didn't move to st. louis until i was like ten years old)

[cpt.mars]

holy shit i just noticed you're from appleton

Ohshi- I know a few people from Appleton that go to my school.

ITT: Mr_Rieper hijacks a thread and nobody will care because it was about BRETT. FAVRE.

[Mr_Rieper]

Too lazy to update my location. Not currently in appleton, but 30 miles north of GB instead. Out in the boonies. I hated living in appleton.

Also, fuck the packers. I prefer baseball.

[Moe_Rahn]

since you're still in wisconsin i'm going to assume you like the brewers in which case congrats on liking a crappy team

[Skyler]

I love how the commentators were declaring every goddamn play or pass he threw a classic Favre move, or one for the records, or blah blah blah. Fuck Brett Favre. Asshole should learn how to spell Farve.

[Glock23]

whatever he's like 40 and still awesome at his job which is kicking ass and also taking names

[Mr_Rieper]

since you're still in wisconsin i'm going to assume you like the brewers in which case congrats on liking a crappy team

Bernie Brewer is the man. Who else gets to dive into a giant beer mug every time there's a home run?

[Stalin]

I love how the commentators were declaring every goddamn play or pass he threw a classic Favre move, or one for the records, or blah blah blah. Fuck Brett Favre. Asshole should learn how to spell Farve.

Fuck you.

[Moe_Rahn]

Bernie Brewer is the man. Who else gets to dive into a giant beer mug every time there's a home run?
me, although i guess i also do that every time there's a strikeout

or a single

or a double play

really any time anything happens in a baseball game

[Stalin]

Because that's the only way baseball can be remotely interesting at all.

http://www.point-spreads.com/images/stories/brett-favre-vikings.jpg
http://www.theonlinewire.com/articleimages/vikings1059.jpg
http://media.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/photo/packers-facing-favre--pickjpg-81c4bbe4b1d21e36_large.jpg
http://www.nflgridirongab.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/vikings.jpg
http://www.dan-dare.org/Dan%20Megaman/MegamanBig2.jpg

[Moe_Rahn]

as opposed to football, where people drink to forget that they're only watching about 15 minutes of actual gameplay over the course of a four hour telecast

[Stalin]

:rolleyes:

97% of America would rather watch college football than college baseball, that is a FACT.

[Moe_Rahn]

except we're talking about pro sports :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[BlindSite]

He's a solid QB still because he's in a system that's friendly to his play, has a fucking wall for an offensive line and has one of the best running backs in the NFL taking most of the load.

Favre sucked in New York because of the Jets system and line and running back stable. Minnesota is and was the perfect situation and no one can blame him, or should blame him for wanting to play football while he can in a near perfect situation.

Everyone hates on his jock, but lets face it, We're not likely to see someone ever play the game as he does and be so successful in doing so. This guy is going to be in the hall of fame and is probably going to be mentioned in the same sentence as Elway and Marino as the best of all time.

It's cool to see him play. I know a lot of people don't like he's not a packer, but no one really remembers Montana playing for Kansas.

[Moe_Rahn]

He's a solid QB still because he's in a system that's friendly to his play, has a fucking wall for an offensive line and has one of the best running backs in the NFL taking most of the load.

Favre sucked in New York because of the Jets system and line and running back stable. Minnesota is and was the perfect situation and no one can blame him, or should blame him for wanting to play football while he can in a near perfect situation.

Everyone hates on his jock, but lets face it, We're not likely to see someone ever play the game as he does and be so successful in doing so. This guy is going to be in the hall of fame and is probably going to be mentioned in the same sentence as Elway and Marino as the best of all time.

It's cool to see him play. I know a lot of people don't like he's not a packer, but no one really remembers Montana playing for Kansas.

I wouldn't even want him as my team's QB, he's not even a good playoff QB.

:rolleyes:

[cpt.mars]

He's a solid QB still because he's in a system that's friendly to his play, has a fucking wall for an offensive line and has the best running backs in the NFL taking most of the load.

...

Everyone hates on his jock, but lets face it, We're not likely to see someone ever play the game as he does and be so successful in doing so. This guy is going to be in the hall of fame and is probably going to be mentioned in the same sentence as Manning and Marino as the best of all time.

It's cool to see him play. I know a lot of people don't like he's not a packer, but no one really remembers Montana playing for Kansas, except for Steve Young, Joe Montana and the entire 49'ers fanbase.

Fixed a couple of things there.

[Pipes]

Farvrrrvervee won't last the whole season without crying in a press conference.

[Stalin]

except we're talking about pro sports :rolleyes::rolleyes:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I guarantee that 76% of Americans would rather watch NFL than MLB.



Favre sucked in New York because of the Jets system and line and running back stable. Minnesota is and was the perfect situation and no one can blame him, or should blame him for wanting to play football while he can in a near perfect situation.



Dude he sucked because he fucked up his arm. First half of the season he was rockin.

AP has been sucking the last two games, I would say the O-line has much more to do with the Vikings' success than AP.

AP has been sucking the last couple of games.

[Moe_Rahn]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I guarantee that 76% of Americans would rather watch NFL than MLB.

because 76% of america has a five-second attention span

[Pipes]

What other professional sport has more nonathletic fats than baseball, that's why i hate it.

[Moe_Rahn]

What other professional sport has more nonathletic fats than baseball, that's why i hate it.
nascar
football

[Pipes]

fat football players have to be agile and strong as fuck, i don't consider nascar a sport.

[Moe_Rahn]

okay i might have misread that as "fans" because we were talking about americans for a while there


and even then like 95% of those guys are designated hitters so just another reason why the american league sucks

[cpt.mars]

okay i might have misread that as "fans" because we were talking about americans for a while there


and even then like 95% of those guys are designated hitters so just another reason why the american league sucks

CC Sebathia, Todd Coffey, Ray King, David Wells.

Pitchers are fat too :/

fat football players have to be agile and strong as fuck, i don't consider nascar a sport.

Yes, O-lineman have to be strong, they're also extraordinarily fat. And if O-lineman can be strong and fat, I'll say that DH's and Pitchers can have coordination and be fat (although being fat is not a pre-requisite for being a DH or a pitcher, whereas it's almost certainly a pre-requisite for being on the O-line) :p

Football =/= being in good shape. Anybody who's a kicker, punter or on either line is probably not in great shape. To be fair, certain positions in Baseball =/= being in good shape either.

Soccer, Boxing/99%of MMA (lol "Big Country"), Tennis and Basketball (save for Shaq, and even then :/) are really the only sports where I can't think of that really don't allow for Fat participants (Although; 1-I'm probably missing several, 2-I don't know enough about Hockey to make a statement one way or another and 3-I really don't count Swimming, Track or Gymnastics as sports)

[Pipes]

CC Sebathia, Todd Coffey, Ray King, David Wells.

Pitchers are fat too :/



Yes, O-lineman have to be strong, they're also extraordinarily fat. And if O-lineman can be strong and fat, I'll say that DH's and Pitchers can have coordination and be fat (although being fat is not a pre-requisite for being a DH or a pitcher, whereas it's almost certainly a pre-requisite for being on the O-line) :p

Football =/= being in good shape. Anybody who's a kicker, punter or on either line is probably not in great shape. To be fair, certain positions in Baseball =/= being in good shape either.

Soccer, Boxing/99%of MMA (lol "Big Country"), Tennis and Basketball (save for Shaq, and even then :/) are really the only sports where I can't think of that really don't allow for Fat participants (Although; 1-I'm probably missing several, 2-I don't know enough about Hockey to make a statement one way or another and 3-I really don't count Swimming, Track or Gymnastics as sports)

Olinemen most definitely have to be in shape, they also need to be big which means some of them have fat guts. There's no reason why baseball players should be fat, that's why I hate fat baseball players.

[cpt.mars]

Olinemen most definitely have to be in shape, they also need to be big which means some of them have fat guts.

Does not compute.

Being fit, or rather, able to do strenuous physical activity does not mean "in shape". By definition, "in shape" refers to the current societal standard for what is, or is not, Attractive. Last I checked, fat guts are not attractive.

[Polish Hill]

Although I won't say there aren't "out of shape" offensive linemen (not defending them but I'm sure its scary how much these guys can lift and how quick their feet are) I think its impossible to ignore the fact that there are quite a few freaks of nature on the line. If anything the Blind Side taught me that some of these physical specimens aren't so much out of shape as merely incomprehensible to normally sized beings like us.

But yea fighters and soccer players are probably more traditionally "athletic" I suppose. If athletic means can run for a long time, have no body fat, and are commonly fast as gazelle. But the Brazilian Ronaldo hasn't been an impressive specimen for a long while either. Although I'm sure examples of out of shape soccer stars are fewer and farther in between than some other sports.

[Stalin]

Last I checked, fat guts are not attractive.

The millions of dollars per year is though.

[cpt.mars]

The millions of dollars per year is though.

I... don't get it?

[Moe_Rahn]

CC Sebathia, Todd Coffey, Ray King, David Wells.

Pitchers are fat too :/

ohshi how could i forget about some of those fuckers

especially david wells, because one of my favorite random baseball facts is that time in 2004 when david wells got scratched from a start (http://withleather.uproxx.com/2006/09/david-wells-has-gout-yes-i-said-gout-no-its-n) because he had motherfucking gout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gout)

not to mention bartolo colon, who may or may not still be missing (http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2009/07/08/Report-Pitcher-Bartolo-Colon-missing/UPI-53141247083599/). how does this fucking guy (http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2007/1127/mlb_g_colon_300.jpg) manage to get away from you, exactly?

(on a slightly related note, has there ever been a picture taken of someone mid-pitch where they didn't have just the most hilarious look on their face?)

[BlindSite]

:rolleyes:
One can't reconsider their opinion?

A pox on thee.

[Pipes]

Does not compute.

Being fit, or rather, able to do strenuous physical activity does not mean "in shape". By definition, "in shape" refers to the current societal standard for what is, or is not, Attractive. Last I checked, fat guts are not attractive.

fit/in shape, same thing when discussing sports

[cpt.mars]

fit/in shape, same thing when discussing sports

Right. Except for that last part where I don't say it's the same thing when discussing sports.

You can be athletic as hell for all I care, but if you've got a gut like some of the pitchers and lineman I've seen, you're still fat. Your job may require it (in case of the lineman) and that's fine. But you're still fat.

[Pipes]

Hey MG, you knew what i meant by in shape :menkey:

And I know some olinemen are still fat but my original point was that baseball is the only real sport I can think of where the players are fat for no reason.

[Stalin]

I... don't get it?



Artis Hicks the accountant=/=attractive
Artis Hicks the prolineman=attractive.

CHICKS DIG MONEY YOU FUCKING IDIOT.


caps

[Polish Hill]

And I know some olinemen are still fat but my original point was that baseball is the only real sport I can think of where the players are fat for no reason.

That's stupid to say, a love of beer and red meat is a perfectly good reason to be fat.

[Moe_Rahn]

can't hit home runs if you don't put your weight into it


"You think Babe Ruth was a stud? Hell no, he was a fat piece of shit. Babe Ruth was a fat piece of shit."
- Nick Swisher

[cpt.mars]

And I know some olinemen are still fat but my original point was that baseball is the only real sport I can think of where the players are fat for no reason.

And I don't disagree with that whatsoever. My point all along has been that Football is another sport that has really fat guys playing in it successfully.

Artis Hicks the accountant=/=attractive
Artis Hicks the prolineman=attractive.

CHICKS DIG MONEY YOU FUCKING IDIOT.


caps

Again, this has what to do with the merits of discussing fatness in sports? Fat athletes get paid a lot too? Oh. Cool. Thanks Stalin.

[Maddog]

if we're gonna talk fat sport players I think this man needs to be brought up at least once in all his glory

http://thenastyboys.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/john-daly.jpg

[cpt.mars]

if we're gonna talk fat sport players I think this man needs to be brought up at least once in all his glory

http://thenastyboys.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/john-daly.jpg

The story goes that Rick Riley was always curious about Daly's nickname. Some point in their time together, Daly dropped his pants and shouted, "THIS IS WHY THEY CALL ME "LONG" JOHN DALY".

I was scarred for life after reading about that incident.

[Stalin]

Again, this has what to do with the merits of discussing fatness in sports? Fat athletes get paid a lot too? Oh. Cool. Thanks Stalin.

I thought we were discussing male attractiveness you fucking homo.

[Polish Hill]

The story goes that Rick Riley was always curious about Daly's nickname. Some point in their time together, Daly dropped his pants and shouted, "THIS IS WHY THEY CALL ME "LONG" JOHN DALY".

I was scarred for life after reading about that incident.

In a recent article about nudity in sports he mentioned how he turned around and saw Daly's "Big Bertha" in hand.

[Stalin]

I read that one.

[Chunkywheats]

I would say most O-linemen are in very good shape for their size. It takes a ridiculous amount of stamina to sustain high rates of activity if you are 300+lbs. And David Wells is my hero. Who else could pitch a perfect game whilst intoxicated. Which is also, coincidentally, why baseball is awesome.

As far as Favre goes, if a team is willing to pay him the money, and he is willing to play, then I guess it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks. I think he won't last the entire season at his current level of play (he's just too fucking old), but that is a risk minnesota takes. Also I like that the NFC north is playing the AFC north this year, and Favre has done a number on the Browns and Ravens. Hopefully the steelers can man handle the vikings a little bit this week (#2 rushing defense and #12 passing defense, #3 overall) and put themselves in position to top their division.

[Stalin]

I think he won't last the entire season at his current level of play (he's just too fucking old),

We'll see.