[C3I] Questions?

[General Bordinko]

Questions or scenarios that you want to bounce off of me?

Lets go.

[MatthewMarchand]

3 Divisions are attacking from 3 different provinces to 3 different provinces. The first 2 divisions come under contact, so their turn ends. The final division is armoured, and does not come under a contact. Therefore it can advance 3 provinces, or until it is under contact?

[General Bordinko]

3 Divisions are attacking from 3 different provinces to 3 different provinces. The first 2 divisions come under contact, so their turn ends. The final division is armoured, and does not come under a contact. Therefore it can advance 3 provinces, or until it is under contact?

Yes. Mech, Motorized, Wheels, Tracks and UAV's: 2 moves per turn. So it would be able to move a total of 2 provinces or until under contact.

Once a unit enters combat it's movement turn ends.

[Fallschirmjager]

We are to PM you our orders, correct?

[General Bordinko]

We are to PM you our orders, correct?

Yes

[fork]

who can see where an UAV is other than the owner? can it be lost/destroyed?

[General Bordinko]

Purchased UAV will be used to spot units, arty and planes on the battlefield. Some can be used as offensive weapons. Can be shot down.

Intel UAV's will be used to spot divisions from a province. Including manpower, unit types and dispositions. Cannot be shot down. They can be only be used one time per week multiple UAV's cannot be purchased.

Only the owner/PMC can see the UAV

[fork]

when planes fly over water, it counts as 2 moves. can they only fly over bridges or can they fly over open water, say from 13-7 to 4-29 along the right side of the map for two moves even though its a tremendous distance? even if they can not fly that far, what about some of the smaller bodies of water within the middle of the map? if planes can only fly over bridges, it seems pretty restrictive but makes setting up air defenses easier.

while were on that subject, if a plane flies over a hostile territory with AA, but the plane has no intention of stopping there for an attack/recon/hookers and blow, does the AA fire at the plane passing by or does the AA wish it well on its way?

[Polish Hill]

What's the idea with setting our alliances in our turned in information? I believe I have a few allies, a non-aggression pact, and one or two vague agreements. Is there any benefit to listing the ally? I just wonder if there are additional states or any nation can backstab another at any point. That's my major concern I suppose.

[BAS]

by putting it in the file then i would imagine that prevents the other guy from attacking you

[General Bordinko]

when planes fly over water, it counts as 2 moves. can they only fly over bridges or can they fly over open water, say from 13-7 to 4-29 along the right side of the map for two moves even though its a tremendous distance?

They can fly over open water. Yeah It would still be two, call it a jet stream or something. If anyone has a better idea let me know.

What about some of the smaller bodies of water within the middle of the map? Movement cost is one for flight purposes.

while were on that subject, if a plane flies over a hostile territory with AA, but the plane has no intention of stopping there for an attack/recon/hookers and blow, does the AA fire at the plane passing by or does the AA wish it well on its way?

SP SAM's and FLAK No. Planes would be flying too high.
As for Area SAMS I am currently working on something either where it can attack at a lower roll in the air combat table or something. I will have something soon.


What's the idea with setting our alliances in our turned in information? I believe I have a few allies, a non-aggression pact, and one or two vague agreements. Is there any benefit to listing the ally?

No benifit, however i've really have to know who is allied and who is not for two reasons.
One, i have to keep track of who can and who cannot go to war as apart of the national advantages/disadvantages.

Two, Myself and SWAT will be acting as intel hubs where intel can be purchased so we need to know so that we can see the information.

I just wonder if there are additional states or any nation can backstab another at any point. That's my major concern I suppose.

Any nation can backstab anyone at any time for no reason. Agreements between nations are only as good as the word that is given. I have no control over why someone can go to war.

[fork]

ok ok. another question. say the good guys (red arrow) fly a CAP over the open sea. at the same time the bad guys (blue arrow) are flying bombers over to phobos to administer justice 1000lbs at a time but fly a course just over the southern end of the sea. can the red fighters intercept the blue bombers?

why dont you just seperate the seas into "providences" too? and for the sake of the CAP's, why not group providences into regions, ala Hearts of Iron style with "Northern Sea" and the like which would cover 6 or 8 difference providences. i fear as though i am making too many demands... :D

[General Bordinko]

Good question.

Yes blue can intercept red.

It's a good idea but I don't feel like chopping it up right now. I might depending if it is abused or not.

[SWATJester_os]

Consider the open ocean to be like "The Round Table" from Ace Combat.

It's where everyone goes to dogfight.

[MatthewMarchand]

1 turn perweek, correct?

[WaffleLeader]

How dose Infantry Do against tanks. If I send a whole Division of Infantry against a brigade of tanks are they going to get rolled every time, even though they have AT weapons? How dose artillery do against tanks for that matter?

[BAS]

I talked to dinko yesterday and said that water being all one area was not a good idea. He aggreed to let me make a divided up map for him

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9108/c3i1water.th.png (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/c3i1water.png/)

I propose each of those water areas count as 1 space instead of 2 for all water.

Consider the open ocean to be like "The Round Table" from Ace Combat.

It's where everyone goes to dogfight.

no offense but thats retarded, you could intercept someones bombers from 1000km away from where they're flying.

[Fallschirmjager]

BAS We don't have a scale for these maps lol.

[BAS]

:rolleyes:

[Fallschirmjager]

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Seriously, there's no scale.

[BAS]

no fucking shit but the way it is now makes no fucking sense

[General Bordinko]

1 turn perweek, correct?
Yeah. I could do them sooner but with work 1 turn per week is what im calling for.

How dose Infantry Do against tanks. If I send a whole Division of Infantry against a brigade of tanks are they going to get rolled every time, even though they have AT weapons? How dose artillery do against tanks for that matter?

It depends on the infantry and the tanks. Modern infantry division v modern tanks infantry division will win because of Javelins and the like.

It depends on the arty. a 105 SP sherman will suck v tanks. 155 paladins with DPICM will have a better chance.

[DasHuhn]

How often can you change your government type, and how long does it take for that government type to be set up?

[Mystrick]

Can Artillery attack a unit that's not in their province? Let's say my arty is in Province A, which is next to Province B, and my enemy is in Province C (in linear fashion)

Can my Arty attack Province C? Or do they have to be in the same province?

[General Bordinko]

Can Artillery attack a unit that's not in their province? Let's say my arty is in Province A, which is next to Province B, and my enemy is in Province C (in linear fashion)

Can my Arty attack Province C? Or do they have to be in the same province?

Arty can attack into a province but cannot move afterwards.
Example.
Arty can move from A to B and attack into C but cannot move back to A or into C

[Arttemis]

What is the range of the "O/M Artillery" systems? I assume that "O/M" means off map?

[General Bordinko]

See Above answer

[fork]

do sams only fire vertically? if so, then whats the point in having them if fighters automatically scramble? if not then why dont they fire at incoming aircraft?

[Captain Colon]

is it just me or do none of fork's questions make any sense

[BAS]

its not just you

[fork]

ok heres my beef. i put sam sites in the capital because i thought that it would fire at incoming planes. however, as demonstrated clearly by yesterdays debacle, sam sites DO NOT fire at incoming enemy aircraft. ever. not on the aircraft's way to their target for reasons unknown and not while over the target because of FF. and because a defender's airforce automatically scrambles when a providence is attacked, if you attacked with greatly overwhelming numbers of aircraft, you could completely wipe out the oppositions aircraft without fear of any ground based attacks from sam sites.

[BAS]

and because a defender's airforce automatically scrambles when a providence is attacked sincie when?

[fork]

since when the capital was attacked and my orderless fighters were thrust into battle before i even know a battle was being battled

[Captain Colon]

ok heres my beef. i put sam sites in the capital because i thought that it would fire at incoming planes. however, as demonstrated clearly by yesterdays debacle, sam sites DO NOT fire at incoming enemy aircraft. ever. not on the aircraft's way to their target for reasons unknown and not while over the target because of FF. and because a defender's airforce automatically scrambles when a providence is attacked, if you attacked with greatly overwhelming numbers of aircraft, you could completely wipe out the oppositions aircraft without fear of any ground based attacks from sam sites.
Well unless your capital is equipped with an AEGIS system or something that doesn't exist, your SAMs have a range of about 50 miles...using the figure of fighters with an average range of ~2000mi being able to move 6 provinces out and 6 provinces back per turn, your SAMs have a range of about 1/5 of a province.

Guess you should've put them AROUND your capital instead :cool:

Shit, if you have a B-52 flying at 40000ft, you're using about a fifth of your missile's range (or much more depending on the missile, as many SAMs are designed to intercept CAS while interceptors slay bodies in the stratosphere) just to get to altitude.

[General Bordinko]

ok heres my beef. i put sam sites in the capital because i thought that it would fire at incoming planes. however, as demonstrated clearly by yesterdays debacle, sam sites DO NOT fire at incoming enemy aircraft. ever. not on the aircraft's way to their target for reasons unknown and not while over the target because of FF. and because a defender's airforce automatically scrambles when a providence is attacked, if you attacked with greatly overwhelming numbers of aircraft, you could completely wipe out the oppositions aircraft without fear of any ground based attacks from sam sites.

From the Air Attack Primer.

MANPADS, SAMS and other air to air systems will not be involved, they will hold fire in fear of a friendly fire incident. One exception, during a strategic bombardment, air defense systems will have the first shot and any squadron at random (some bonuses may be applied to attack and defense). Strategic bombardment will be explained further in another primer.

Your sams are still up and they will be used during the tactical operations in defense of the capitol. Where if you have a patriot aginst a C130. Well the results are going to be lulz.

No one in their right mind would fire into a wing v wing dogfight.

These were the orders as I had received them
2nd Fighter Wing "NightHawks" - CAP SE sea
3rd Fighter Wing "Phoenix Wing" - CAP Capital
2nd Bombardment Group "Warbirds" - Strike/CAP 2-air17

Your entire airforce was already airborne. There was nothing scrambled. Your entire airforce responded to an attack because they are on a combat air patrol.

[fork]

o shiest, i didnt know that our orders were turned in already. this is the opposite of good...

[ScAvenger001]

Can c-130s that aren't doing para operations move 24 spaces like heavy bombers do or are they still limited to 12? i.e. if they're flying troops from one airfield to another, I can't help but notice that most airfields are more than 12 spaces apart.

[fork]

Units that are KIA: can they be reinforced back to full strength or must they be built again?

[Fallschirmjager]

They're KILLED IN ACTION. They're dead and cannot be reinforced.

[fork]

cant i put the pieces/body parts back together? zombie army?

[Fallschirmjager]

NO. NeVER

[General Bordinko]

Can c-130s that aren't doing para operations move 24 spaces like heavy bombers do or are they still limited to 12? i.e. if they're flying troops from one airfield to another, I can't help but notice that most airfields are more than 12 spaces apart.

No, only heavy bombers can move 24. If you want to move from airport to airport talk to tato about his airlift services.

Units that are KIA: can they be reinforced back to full strength or must they be built again?

They're KILLED IN ACTION. They're dead and cannot be reinforced.

Correct

[Polish Hill]

Fall seems partially insane is it proper for him to be commanding a nation?

[Captain Colon]

look who's talking fatty

[Fallschirmjager]

partially insane enough to RIP AND TEAR YOUR HUGE GUTS/MILITARY.

[fork]

wut?

anyway... are we going to get an update about those last two battles that you had to run, bordinko?

[SWATJester_os]

It's christmas, give things a break.

[Captain Colon]

that's not very jewish of you

[BAS]

not to mention turn 2 has already started and fork was asking about something from turn 1

[fork]

ayenot to mention turn 2 has already started and fork was asking about something from turn 1

[General Bordinko]

wut?

anyway... are we going to get an update about those last two battles that you had to run, bordinko?

I sent you and fork an AAR.

I'll only post the huge battles in the thread so that I can keep my typing at a minimum.

[Arttemis]

If we choose to loan forces to one of the two NPC nations, do we have to provide transport to get them there as well, or is it assumed that both nations have contracts for airlift services with the PMCs?

[General Bordinko]

Nope, the NPC nations will take care of that both ways.

[Captain Colon]

you forgot to add my income to my sheet for this latest turn and just subtracted my expenses...can i sue?

[MatthewMarchand]

One of my units is outside of my airfield. They are mechanized paras, can they move the one space to the airfield, load up, and do an para drop the same turn?

[BAS]

you forgot to add my income to my sheet for this latest turn and just subtracted my expenses...can i sue?

dinko is really berni maddof, he didnt give me any income from captured territories d:D

[General Bordinko]

you forgot to add my income to my sheet for this latest turn and just subtracted my expenses...can i sue?

No, fix it and let me know about the error. I will check it with last weeks sheet and what it should be. I will usually miss something.

One of my units is outside of my airfield. They are mechanized paras, can they move the one space to the airfield, load up, and do an para drop the same turn?

Yes.

[Captain Colon]

Can divisions that are being reinforced move in the same turn that they're reinforced?

[BAS]

Im pretty sure

[General Bordinko]

Can divisions that are being reinforced move in the same turn that they're reinforced?

Yes